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You know, I get irritated when mass media zombies see Chicago with 700 murders and go "oh wow most dangerous city in America!", because it makes me think they don't realize Chicago, if not a true Alpha World City anymore, is still a huge global city with 1/3 of NY's population and a skyline to match.
On the other hand, it's started to irritate me to see people downplaying Chicago's carnage by bringing up it's overall rate, which includes the whole city. I also haven't historically wanted to agree with the people who have said Chicagos worst neighborhoods are just about the worst in the country, but I am beginning to believe them more and more.
Like for instance, when I, or other people compare Philadelphia to Chicago, I think of how Chicago has 90 more square miles than Philly, but Chicago has that many more safe neighborhoods than Philly, so I think if you took the 90 safest square miles from Chicago, it would actually be more dangerous.
I was just thinking tonight, that Chicago is about on track to end with 200 more homicides than just last year, when Philly is on track to beat last year's count by maybe 70 homicides? That would be well under half and Philly has 60% Chicago's population. Anyway... This is still a very weird year indeed.
I still don't think Philadelphia will crack 400, the numbers went up for every city on 4th July week. At this time in 2012 there were 187 and finished with 331, while 2019 and 2018 had less at this time and finished with more homicides by the end of the year. I'm estimating somewhere between 370-380 despite surpassing the record total from 07.
When you end the year with more homicides than the 1st and 2nd largest cities combined you have a major problem!
Homicide rate is another figure you must take account for. The 3rd largest city will most likely have homicides that reflect the population. Chicago's homicide rate has been comparably low aside from 2016. Richmond (from what's provided) historically has a higher homicide rate than Chicago and is considered a top destination for Millennials.
Homicide rate is another figure you must take account for. The 3rd largest city will most likely have homicides that reflect the population. Chicago's homicide rate has been comparably low aside from 2016. Richmond (from what's provided) historically has a higher homicide rate than Chicago and is considered a top destination for Millennials.
But Chicago doesn't have the 3rd highest number of homicides. It has *multiples* more homicides than the 1st and 2nd largest cities. And it has multiples more than any other major US city, too. Among the 10 or 15 largest cities in America, Chicago is without a doubt the most violent. Playing with numbers to disguise that reality is silly.
edited: Greensboro has had 6 murders since friday morning. 16 year old kid killed this morning. 24 y/o man shot earlier this morning has passed from his wounds. This is ridiculous
Last edited by MrPiedmontTriad; 07-07-2020 at 01:02 PM..
I still don't think Philadelphia will crack 400, the numbers went up for every city on 4th July week. At this time in 2012 there were 187 and finished with 331, while 2019 and 2018 had less at this time and finished with more homicides by the end of the year. I'm estimating somewhere between 370-380 despite surpassing the record total from 07.
But look at 2007 compared to 2008. A huge majority of murders in Philly in 2007 were in the first 1/2 of the year, owing to the huge spike in 2006. This year is the opposite as it is only getting worse, so even if 2020 is in line with 2007 now, by the end of the year it will easily surpass that number. 2012 ended with a lower number than expected because it was the start of the 3 years of low numbers in the 200s. To end 2020 with under 380, the countrywide crime spike would have to reverse at the very least.
But Chicago doesn't have the 3rd highest number of homicides. It has *multiples* more homicides than the 1st and 2nd largest cities. And it has multiples more than any other major US city, too. Among the 10 or 15 largest cities in America, Chicago is without a doubt the most violent. Playing with numbers to disguise that reality is silly.
"Without a doubt"? In terms of big cities, that's a lie. Aside from 2016 and 2017, Philadelphia's homicide rates are higher than Chicago's, and possibly equal to Chicago's by the end of this the year. The media has an obsession on making crime synonymous with Chicago. I'm not "playing with numbers" How can it statistically be the most violent city when Gary, 30 minutes away has a higher homicide rate?
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