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Phase one was releasing a city wide comprehensive plan. Phase 2 will be the releasing of 18 district comprehensive plans. The first of two district comprehensive plans were released.
and Lower South District Plan
http://phila2035.org\lsouthdp_jan2012draft.pdf/ (broken link)
The Central, University City and Lower Northeast Comprehensive plans are currently being worked on. After that there will be more Comprehensive plans.
There was also a Delaware Waterfront Master plan, a Market East/Chinatown/Loft District/Franklin Square master plan, a Navy Yard master plan, Temple University released a master plan for the Templetown/Yokrtown area and both Drexel and UPenn released master plans for University City. A Lower Schuylkill and a North Broad Master plan are actually being worked on now.
Do you know what Comprehensive plans and Master plans are? I would hope so since you are apparently the development "king."
It took 400 years for African American's to get in this situation when they were enslaved and dragged here, then freed and persecuted, then stripped and separated that I hope you don't think the last 40 years from the late 1960's till now is going to undue the 400 years of damage that has already been done.
African American's were not the only slaves in history. Jewish Americans, Italian American's and Irish American's also had to deal with discrimination and oppression too, obviously not to the extent of of African Americans, and some would argue that Latino Americans are dealing with what African American's dealt with (obviously not slavery) but to a certain extent you can argue that Latinos and African Americans still deal with slavery to some extent.
Obviously, Philadelphia does not have the per capita tax revenue resources that DC has. The fact that too many areas of Philly have been left behind to rot has nothing to do with lack of care; on the contrary, Philly is chock full of non-profit organizations that try to fill in the gaps where resources are severely lacking.
I think you are just generally unaware of the type of improvements, programs and investments that are occurring in Philly -- and I wouldn't expect you to be, as you live in DC. However, all it takes is a quick Google search to find out the kind of programs/investment that is occurring in Philly targeting disadvantaged neighborhoods if you're genuinely interested.
One new large scale development in particular is in an area of North Philly that will be mixed-income, mixed-use and transit-oriented. Modeled after a highly successful project in New York, I think this project will definitely set the tone for revitalization in Philly's most depressed neighborhoods in the years to come:
As previously mentioned, the Philadelphia Housing Authority is now doing a much better job of not only preserving affordable housing but doing so by incorporating the existing urban fabric through rehabilitation and adaptive re-use. Here is one recent project the PHA will embark on -- chosen through a design competition -- that will incorporate the existing housing stock into a sustainable new affordable housing development:
Also, speaking of food deserts, wouldn't you know that Philadelphia has been on the forefront of tackling this issue, as well. In fact, Michele Obama came to Philly about two years ago to tout a recently built supermarket as a model for other cities across the country:
In short, there is plenty of focus occurring in Philly with regard to new development that does not lose sight of disadvantaged neighborhoods. Any claims to the contrary are just misinformed or lacking in knowledge.
I have not been talking about the city of Philadelphia or the non-profits which are obviously helping in the cause. That is their job and every city is doing what they can. I'm talking about the people on this site that widely represent residents in Center City's views. It's their ideology that has to be fought more than anything else. Think about the comments in this thread. We are fighting the same attitudes in Washington D.C. and almost every city is fighting these ideologies. We have been fighting them for 400 years. People just flat out say, I don't want to live near those people on this site.
Minority population grew by 46% in CC versus 17% among caucasions
Also MD disagree with your assertions above reagrding no regard for any other areas; while the plans and funding are different there are tangible reasons for this you seem to disregard in your what is to me very tunneled view of DC way or a bad way; nor are such things in DC unique to only DC as you suggest
Also there is more black flight in DC than in Philly so not sure there a perfect answer or tact
Now I'm going to show you what I mean. How many people on this site have talked about what you just said? It took me highlighting the fact that you guys don't talk about the rest of the city for you to actually care enough to talk about area's that aren't dominated by Caucasians.
I know all about every corner of Washington D.C. and I would wager I also know way more about poverty than you will ever know. Let's get real here. Somewhere along the way, you seem to think I said Washington D.C. wasn't a city with low income area's which is a figment of your imagination. In almost every thread on this board, all I do is talk about all the blighted area's in D.C. where investment is finally coming. How the crime rate is dropping. How D.C. has put in laws to make sure affordable housing is included in all the new development. I want this for all cities where African Americans are struggling which is a lot. The problem is, most of you are happier to see these residents move out than new developments include units for them as well.
I would rather see everyone in American succeed regardless of race or religion but that's currently not reality and it won't be reality in our life times, so we have to look at reality and find ways to improve it regardless. Philly is doing everything they can and to say Philadelphia's Mayor Nutter is not concerned with African American's in his city when he is himself African American is just weird. To say Philadelphia does not care about African American's when 40% of the population is African American is also strange. How could a mayor and a LARGE majority of the population of this city not care about itself? And for your infromation I live in North Philadelphia, I see poverty all the time. Why do you think you know more about poverty than me? Who do you think you are? I walk the streets of North Philadelphia every day good and bad neighborhoods. I see where new "yuppie" neighborhoods are sprouting and where current "low income" neighborhoods are being invested in to give these people better living situations. Since Urban renewal and investment costs MONEY and a lot of it, obviously the city can not invest in every area at once, but it is certainly happening at a pretty quick rate.
Wait so MD Allstar let me get this right? Center City is the only part of the city growing in population? What are you talking about. You will say anything to try to prove DC is better than Philly but it's not. Philly is miles ahead of DC in every category except for government presence, which isn't a good thing. I prove you wrong with every single damn thing you say and you instantly change the topic. It's really quite annoying.
DC is seeing an explosion of growth right now which means it will flatline within a few years... probably before the 2020 census. If you think cities continue to grow at a quick pace uninterrupted continuously that isn't NYC then you have no idea what you are talking about.
Philly is growing at a much slower rate, which means it's growth will last much much longer. Not to mention Philadelphia is a MUCH larger city than DC both population and square mileage wise and can handle much larger growth. DC can probably hold about 1 million population MAX with your height limit and that would probably be ridiculously over crowded. Philly can easily handle 3 million population without overcrowding.
Philadelphia is predicted to add 100,000 more people to the city by 2020 and 400,000 more to the metro by 2020. I don't think you understand this. DC has a lower population number, so if you add 100,000 people, that would be about a 16% increase... if Philly adds 100,000 people, than that would be a .6% increase. Get it? While it looks like DC is growing faster on paper, that is really not the case. If they both add 100,000 people, the percentage of growth is going to look smaller for Philly because we have 1 million more people living in the city.
And once again, you are discrediting both the amount of construction going on in Philly and the amount of Urban renewal going on in Philly. You say North Philly is filled with dangerous neighborhoods, I prove you wrong and show you that Lower North Philly is gentrifying at a rapid rate and show you neighborhoods that have been revitalized or are being revitalized and you say, "well are they allowing low income people to live in those new plush neighborhoods?"
What is wrong with you? I'm not discrediting DC and I agree it is growing fast but man, DC isn't the only city in the entire world growing. It is not the only city in the entire world seeing a boom in construction. You really need to get out more and experience some other places outside of DC.
Oh and BTW, Philly just went through a large construction boom that ended in 2009 and we are just starting to enter another construction boom. Things in Philly are much more paced and a lot slower which is why the growth in Philly will outlast the growth and boom in DC. Also, yes maybe next year will see growth and a lot of construction, maybe the year after that too. But DC's growth and construction boom won't last much longer. So it enjoy it while you can.
Philly is predicted to add 100,000 people in 8 years? And 400,000 by 2040? But we are delusional. LLS
Philly is predicted to add 100,000 people in 8 years? And 400,000 by 2040? But we are delusional. LLS
400,000 to the metro and 100,000 people to the city in between 2010 and 2020, that is 10 years. That is what was projected by the census. No one said this would be continued growth. Stop twisting what I say around. The population was up about 2 thousand people about two/three months after the 2010 census was released. The census said 1,526,006 in 2010 and just a few months after the population was approx 1,528,306. So I don't see why not? 100,000 people? Maybe. Will it happen? Maybe? Do I see it happening by 2020? Maybe... 2030? More likely.
If the population continued at 2,000 people every 3 months then that would be 80,000 people in 10 years. Correct? So it is possible and probably a very accurate projection.
Also there hasn't been a population count since then, so we have no idea where the population stands right now.
Philly is predicted to add 100,000 people in 8 years? And 400,000 by 2040? But we are delusional. LLS
The best estimates have Philly adding 50K in 5 years from 2005 to 2010 and picking up momentum, 100K in 8 years probably may not be that far off. Especially considering the waterfront alone could add 80-100K alone in the next 20 years if all the development takes place (virtually zero today and so much potential for new areas.
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[LEFT]Many have been waiting and anticipating the day a future is secured for Philadelphia's Premier Waterfront and it finally came. The Philadelphia City Planning Commission unanimously adopted the Master Plan for the Central Delaware Waterfront in its entirety, Tuesday afternoon. The new roadmap for the future of the waterfront is an ambitious plan, but very realistic. The plan aims to reunite the city and the waterfront with a system of linked parks and extended city streets. The Central Delaware Plan is now part of the city's comprehensive plan. It must be considered by by any city governing body when making a waterfront decision.
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[LEFT]CDAG and other fans of the plan say it will re-tie the city to the waterfront, create new recreational and green space and spur economic growth. Many see the plan as a potential remedy to the paralysis caused by the creation of Interstate 95. The plan's adoption will make it easier to raise money to make plan projects happen. DRWC has already raised millions of dollars to implement public projects and will continue to do so in order to encourage and leverage private development of the waterfront.[/LEFT]
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[LEFT]The plan reconnects city neighborhoods to the waterfront by fostering connections along key streets that generally end in public space. The series of public spaces, occurring about every half-mile, are linked to each other with a multi-purpose trail. The plan calls for mixed use development, including residential, commercial and industrial. View corridors to the water are preserved, and buildings are generally low and mid-rise in illustrations that occupy the plan. The street grid is extended to the waterfront.
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