07-09-2013, 07:45 PM
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Michael Scott
Oh boy. Again, really didn't want a pro-gun, anti-gun argument out of this. So from what I'm reading, because the changes were overrided, there are basically no restrictions as far as cities, districts, the CTA, etc., for concealed carry?
There are plenty of restrictions, none of them happen to be places I go on a regular basis. No CTA or public transit carry at all.
Complete text of the new law here:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publ...?Name=098-0063
This is the list of prohibited places (beginning on page 20, section 65):
Property “under the control” of public or private elementary or secondary schools.
Property “under the control” of pre-school or child care facilities.
Buildings “under the control of an officer of the executive or legislative branch of government.” Exceptions exist for certain property “regulated by the Department of Natural Resources or any other designated public hunting area or building where firearm possession is permitted…”
Property designated for courts.
Property “under the control” of local government.
Detention or correction facilities.
Property “under the control” of hospitals, mental health facilities, and nursing homes.
Buses, trains and other public transports “paid for in whole or in part with public funds.”
Any establishment that derives more than 50% of their gross income from liquor sales.
Public gatherings requiring a permit from local government.
Liquor stores.
Public playgrounds.
Public parks or athletic facilities and grounds “under the control of a municipality or park district.”
Property “under the control of the Cook County Forest Preserve District.” (Special dispensation to Chicago area to get this bill passed.)
Property “under the control” of colleges and universities.
Licensed gaming facilities.
Property “under the control” of airports, public libraries, amusement parks, zoos, or museums.
Any property having anything to do with nuclear energy.
Wherever firearms are prohibited by federal law.
07-09-2013, 08:01 PM
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Marie24
There are plenty of restrictions, none of them happen to be places I go on a regular basis. No CTA or public transit carry at all.
Complete text of the new law here:
Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of Public Act 098-0063
This is the list of prohibited places (beginning on page 20, section 65):
That list is most likely correct, but did I also see that the penality for a licensed carrier carrying into one of these restricted places is a misdemeanor, similar to trespassing? If so, I suspect many CC license holders will still carry on the CTA.
07-09-2013, 08:07 PM
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Marie24
There are plenty of restrictions, none of them happen to be places I go on a regular basis. No CTA or public transit carry at all.
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DoubleMakers
That list is most likely correct, but did I also see that the penality for a licensed carrier carrying into one of these restricted places is a misdemeanor, similar to trespassing? If so, I suspect many CC license holders will still carry on the CTA.
Would kinda defeat my purposes for wanting it if I cant carry on the CTA. Really its just for late night rides/walks back home from wherever my client site may be, which will almost certainly require a CTA ride of some sort. Oh well.
07-09-2013, 08:12 PM
Location: Midwest
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Michael Scott
Would kinda defeat my purposes for wanting it if I cant carry on the CTA. Really its just for late night rides/walks back home from wherever my client site may be, which will almost certainly require a CTA ride of some sort. Oh well.
Conversation on the gun forums I belong to indicates there is thinking that while carrying a concealed LOADED gun on the CTA is not kosher, carrying an UNLOADED gun in your bag is OK.
07-09-2013, 08:29 PM
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Michael Scott
Would kinda defeat my purposes for wanting it if I cant carry on the CTA. Really its just for late night rides/walks back home from wherever my client site may be, which will almost certainly require a CTA ride of some sort. Oh well.
Honestly, if the penalty is just a misdemeanor, I'm still carrying late at night on the CTA.
07-09-2013, 08:51 PM
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Additionally the cost is $150.00 per application, WHICH I GUARANTEE WILL BE $500.00 within four years. No doubt on that price increase.
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Originally Posted by
Marie24
That is incorrect. You won't even be able to apply for the CCW permit unless you already have a valid FOID card.
You think the gang bangers have FOID cards?
Illinois State Police | Concealed Carry FAQ
he applicant must:
Be at least 21 years of age
Have a valid FOID card
Have not been convicted or found guilty in this State or any other state of:A misdemeanor involving the use or threat of physical force or violence to any person within the last 5 years.
2 or more violations related to driving while under the influence of alcohol, other drug or drugs, intoxicating compound or compounds, or any combination thereof, within the last 5 years.
Not be the subject of a pending arrest warrant, prosecution, or proceeding for an offense or action that could lead to disqualification.
Not have been in a residential or court-ordered treatment for alcoholism, alcohol detoxification, or drug treatment within the last 5 years.
Submit a completed Concealed Carry License Application.
Successfully complete 16 hours of firearms training, including classroom and range instruction.
07-09-2013, 08:52 PM
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DoubleMakers
Honestly, if the penalty is just a misdemeanor, I'm still carrying late at night on the CTA.
I guess I would just need confirmation of that. However, if individual business, such as wherever my client sites may be, also are allowed to place restrictions, then again my purposes would be defeated.
07-09-2013, 08:59 PM
Location: Midwest
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Michael Scott
I guess I would just need confirmation of that. However, if individual business, such as wherever my client sites may be, also are allowed to place restrictions, then again my purposes would be defeated.
As the saying goes, "concealed is concealed."
07-09-2013, 09:07 PM
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Marie24
As the saying goes, "concealed is concealed."
I don't follow, lol
07-09-2013, 09:12 PM
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... lots of people shoot for sport etc.
I agree. And, it's sad that a few bad apples are ruining this for everyone. But, fact of the matter is, our government is either going to allow the general public access to hand guns, or they're not. There's no grey area with this. Just remember, if they continue to allow it, there is nothing (I repeat NOTHING) stopping the bad guys from having them, too. It's just that simple.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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