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Old 05-29-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Downtown Harrisburg
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Largest HSPA+ network?..Depends on the variables...
Getting 4G performance from your device. AT&T offers that in fewer areas, hence why even THEY don't claim to have the largest 4G network.

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"AT&T's mobile data traffic has increased by 8000%, over 4 years"
That's news to no one, given the perpetual reports of slow 3G performance on AT&T. Unfortunately for them, AT&T chose not to properly manage their network. The result? Poor coverage, substantial network congestion, and -- this is the most important -- poor service from an end-user perspective.

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Could you be emotionally attached? Maybe. To disagree would mean you're emotionally oblivious.
Yeah -- YOU'RE the one saying you either have to be emotionally attached or emotionally oblivious. You really need to stop moving the goalposts, take a deep breath, and get outside.

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I rather this thread consist of intellectual conversations about networks, technology, and other technically inclined information instead of battles that shift the purpose of this thread
Then stop posting. Or, as others have already pointed out, learn that not everybody is as fanatically obsessed with AT&T as you are, and stop taking that as a personal attack.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Getting 4G performance from your device. AT&T offers that in fewer areas, hence why even THEY don't claim to have the largest 4G network.



That's news to no one, given the perpetual reports of slow 3G performance on AT&T. Unfortunately for them, AT&T chose not to properly manage their network. The result? Poor coverage, substantial network congestion, and -- this is the most important -- poor service from an end-user perspective.



Yeah -- YOU'RE the one saying you either have to be emotionally attached or emotionally oblivious. You really need to stop moving the goalposts, take a deep breath, and get outside.



Then stop posting. Or, as others have already pointed out, learn that not everybody is as fanatically obsessed with AT&T as you are, and stop taking that as a personal attack.
That's what i'm talking about. If I was well off or never had to worry about bills, then i'd definitely have Verizon; but their price and only their price made me leave. Based on all factors my personal order would be Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T. All 4 have pretty good coverage in my area which is Long Island and also when I go into the city but Verizon by far had the best reception for these areas. AT&T's reception was better than T-Mobiles but not significantly. My friend Chris is with AT&T and is counting the days till he leaves.
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Old 05-29-2011, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Downtown Harrisburg
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That's what i'm talking about. If I was well off or never had to worry about bills, then i'd definitely have Verizon; but their price and only their price made me leave. Based on all factors my personal order would be Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T. All 4 have pretty good coverage in my area which is Long Island and also when I go into the city but Verizon by far had the best reception for these areas. AT&T's reception was better than T-Mobiles but not significantly. My friend Chris is with AT&T and is counting the days till he leaves.
I also came pretty close to going to T-Mobile just for the G2X, but their coverage in rural PA isn't very impressive. I do a lot of urbex and the like, so voice coverage in the back mountains and valleys is a must. Being able to tether my Thunderbolt and fire up Acme Mapper and Facebook from the middle of nowhere is just awesome.

Not too long ago I took a group of people out to explore an 18-mile stretch of abandoned Interstate here. The AT&T customers had no signal. Now that I have the T-bolt, at least I can set up a WiFi hotspot for them to use.
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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I also came pretty close to going to T-Mobile just for the G2X, but their coverage in rural PA isn't very impressive. I do a lot of urbex and the like, so voice coverage in the back mountains and valleys is a must. Being able to tether my Thunderbolt and fire up Acme Mapper and Facebook from the middle of nowhere is just awesome.

Not too long ago I took a group of people out to explore an 18-mile stretch of abandoned Interstate here. The AT&T customers had no signal. Now that I have the T-bolt, at least I can set up a WiFi hotspot for them to use.
Very Cool! Can ya hear me now?
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Downtown Harrisburg
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However, this is a debate, and debating is an art of persuasion.
You are not debating. You are dispensing corporate propaganda set forth from your employer, endlessly badgering those who hold a different opinion than yours, and employing fallacy after fallacy.

If you want to discuss the art of debate, feel free to do so in the appropriate forum.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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I think we can safely agree that AT&T and Verizon, T-Mobile, US Cellular and Sprint all beat up the adoring public with PR, spin and any other advantage they can use.

My personal experience with Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile from NOLA to SoCAl is as follows. It is all fabulous in California! Sprint CDMA is clear winner in rural and less populated areas as Verizon and Sprint users roam on the same towers. AT&T and T-Mobile have very poor reception in rural areas that are hilly and heavily forested. AT&T has never been much of a rural carrier; neither has t-Mobile. Both are sunk in USCenllular owned Illinois rural areas. VZN & Sprint do very well. I Know because I live here right in the middle of corn and cows, hills, forested areas and large boides of water -- all the things yo do not have in mega-cities like LA and Dallas.

I have a friend with Sprint Droid type phone who drives all over the US. He regularly pulls 4G coast to coast and in the least expected pleces like a tiny town in Georgia a 100 miles from nowhere.

I have an iPhone 4 VZN and Sprint LG Rumor touch. I live 60 miles from any town of size. I have 6 bars on both phones. I have zero trouble with 3G, 4G or WIFI on the iPhone. The worst customer service I had in my life is AT&T since before it was broke up into the baby Bells; it has gotten steadily worse whem it come sto CS. It is followed by CenturyLink who is about to jump into cell phones. There landline services is 100x worse than AT&T on a best day.

The only thing I am pointing out is I know what works well in my area. I don't know what works well in your area because I don't live there. I also learned that when you buy into the "free" phones you get what you pay for: nothing. If you buy a good phone and do not abuse it, you'll have a phone that should last more than 2 years.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Downtown Harrisburg
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The only thing I am pointing out is I know what works well in my area. I don't know what works well in your area because I don't live there.
This is the one universal, unwavering truth of wireless: "YMMV". I've been saying for years that the only point of consideration that matters is how well a given carrier / device works for you personally.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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The results of a recent poll conducted on a NYC street corner shows that AT&T sucks more than Verizon.



/sarcasm
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Downtown Harrisburg
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The results of a recent poll conducted on a NYC street corner shows that AT&T sucks more than Verizon.
This made me laugh!
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Old 06-23-2011, 11:15 PM
 
Location: East Bay Area
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basking in the ambiance


http://billychic.com/pix/verizon2.jpg

But seriously, we are really friends....


http://www-bgr-com.vimg.net/wp-conte...erizon-Guy.jpg

I like this girl

http://www.tipb.com/images/stories/2011/01/tmobile-ad-atacks-att-and-verizon.png (broken link)
http://www.tipb.com/images/stories/2011/01/tmobile-ad-atacks-att-and-verizon.png (broken link)
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