Coronavirus (Los Angeles: home, schools, living)

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

I made an honest mistake

Fine. Just say that and move on.

[citizensadvocate]

Its very interesting in knowing where federal power ends and state rights begin.
I.e regarding the workplace thing as well as requiring local transportation company(municipal or private) that operates entering within a state not cross state borders nor require federal funding. Would federal government have teeth in requiring their employees be vaccinated and both employees and patrons to be masked. I mean anymore than requiring a convention center, arena, stadium, or other venue that regularly hosts major cross state events to comply with a federal mandate

[goodheathen]

In practice, that probably doesn't matter in California, because the state government is more in favor of COVID restrictions than the Federal government is.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Fine. Just say that and move on.

It's not okay for me to get tripped up twice in a week by maybe objectively confusing articles, and it's even less for you to ever deliberately distort sources. Just stop that. In fact, stop thinking Delta is going away soon or that this situation would become good purely from that.
This country is too big and Omicron not moving fast enough (which sounds absurd) to fully knock Delta out and keep it out. (Except Hawaii.)
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/o...150453732.html
Furthermore, having been unable to find data confirmation, I suspect articles are inaccurate and maybe because of the no-testing policy in South Africa, Delta has been prematurely declared gone there. It is not being called gone from any other country.
I wish this situation allowed living (normally) with COVID. It doesn't, and it's toxic to insist otherwise.

[wac_432]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

You lost me, there are 29 kids in my grandson's class. 13 are not in school (including my grandson). The teacher said that some kids are quarantined, some are home ill after a positive test, and the remainder are symptomatic but either not tested, or tested negative but too ill to return to school. I don't think that you can extrapolate the number of absences in one class to the entire school, even with seasonal colds contagion is frequently limited to a few classrooms, so you can't say that since there are 10 kids in one class who are ill there are 10 in every other class.

But why are you challenging me about this? I have no reason to lie about it. And I'm not going to get into a discussion with you over how I feel about the regulations of his school, that's pointless and sounds like it would devolve into a tedious and boring argument.

I'm not trying to challenge. I certainly don't think you're lying. I'm requesting info, because your experience is wildly different from mine, and I'm trying to understand why. I followed your link to see if your local schools were massively infected and didn't see it in the data, so I was trying to figure out the discrepancy. We've just hit the peak of community transmission in my town, and yet none of my kid's classmates are out, nor are any of their friends sick. You report that nearly half your grands' peers are out sick.

I feel like I'm living on a different planet from some of these reports. I've tongue-in-cheek referred to "Planet Heathen" (which a mod decided was too personal), but I really wonder where the difference in our experiences is coming from. I don't think my town is that much more healthy or wealthy than these other places. So why the difference? Is it greater restrictions elsewhere? More virus elsewhere? It doesn't seem that way, as metro Sacramento infection rate is 230/100,000 vs my locality which is 300+/100,000. Vaccination rates are similar. I just don't get it.

And I'm certainly not going to argue about how you feel. That would be tedious and boring. I was just curious.

Anyway, apologies for the interrogation. I hope your grandchild feels better soon!

[goodheathen]

Something the state must do soon is to set up a version of the National Guard for teachers. Very qualified subs who can be deployed for regions (generally more than one district) and in multiple types of schools (say, middle school and high school) as needed. They'd be on salary and maybe could work as in-class aides or remote instructors for students who have to stay home when not leading classrooms.

Side note: I haven't formally complained about anything lately. I prefer people work things out and this turn into a discussion that sometimes is beneficial.

[goodheathen]

In Los Angeles, the majority - probably the vast majority - of kids in public school are from lower-income families, who are more likely to be infected from outside campus. I know much less about other districts, though I'd expect almost all of them to be having some Omicron troubles now. My guess is Oakland is somewhat like LA in the poor-kids-schools thing.

[JGC97]

About the time you get all these security measures in place, Omnicron will have died out and either we'll have a new strain or none at all.

Maybe we need a new one because I'm not sure how some will handle living in a state where there's no threat. They've had two years of information feeding their brains with fear. It's a way of life now.

[Racer46]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

It's not okay for me to get tripped up twice in a week by maybe objectively confusing articles, and it's even less for you to ever deliberately distort sources. Just stop that. In fact, stop thinking Delta is going away soon or that this situation would become good purely from that.
This country is too big and Omicron not moving fast enough (which sounds absurd) to fully knock Delta out and keep it out. (Except Hawaii.)
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/o...150453732.html
Furthermore, having been unable to find data confirmation, I suspect articles are inaccurate and maybe because of the no-testing policy in South Africa, Delta has been prematurely declared gone there. It is not being called gone from any other country.
I wish this situation allowed living (normally) with COVID. It doesn't, and it's toxic to insist otherwise.

the last report I saw showed delta was just below 50% of the cases and Omicron just above. That was at the end of the year.

Can't find the link but I believe it was on NPR dated 12/28.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

About the time you get all these security measures in place, Omnicron will have died out and either we'll have a new strain or none at all.

Maybe we need a new one because I'm not sure how some will handle living in a state where there's no threat. They've had two years of information feeding their brains with fear. It's a way of life now.

If an asteroid strikes, I guess Omicron and new strains won't be here at the end of the year.

Any "security measures," excluding new vaccines, shouldn't target only Omicron. They should protect in whatever hard-to-predict circumstances will be present.