Coronavirus (Oakland: high crime, living, vs.)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

We also aren't the most blue state overall, which is a big part of the equation. The Bay Area may be, but that doesn't represent the entire state population. The more conservative counties have much lower vaccination rates on average. Google it.

We arguably have the most restrictions and mandates of any state though. That’s what you were arguing, not how “blue” a state is. Again with the irony of you complaining about others making the pandemic political; pot meet kettle.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

We arguably have the most restrictions and mandates of any state though. That’s what you were arguing, not how “blue” a state is. Again with the irony of you complaining about others making the pandemic political; pot meet kettle.

We probably need more to keep the numbers comparably lower. In some of states in New England the demographics are much different and most people will do the right thing on their own.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

We probably need more to keep the numbers comparably lower. In some of states in New England the demographics are much different and most people will do the right thing on their own.

Only one state in New England has a lower death rate. Try again…..

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

Aren't you the one who claims that cases don't matter now?

I realize this was in response to something else, but the volume of cases don't matter as much now as they did prior to widespread vaccination. The entire state would be locked down and well into 'purple' tier according to the old standard. As a matter of policy, we're ignoring all that simply because we can. Raw case numbers have far less meaning because covid19 has become much more survivable.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Can you name a virus that is done with us?

Smallpox. Polio is too for the most part. Perhaps sars 2003 and mers since they aren't really a thing anymore. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that covid19 will slip into obsolescence.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by joosoon

I realize this was in response to something else, but the volume of cases don't matter as much now as they did prior to widespread vaccination.

Exactly.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by sav858

We arguably have the most restrictions and mandates of any state though. That’s what you were arguing, not how “blue” a state is. Again with the irony of you complaining about others making the pandemic political; pot meet kettle.

Apparently the virus has a harder time latching onto cells of dyed-in-the-wool liberals. I'm glad I wasn't the only one trying to decipher the relevance of "blue state" somehow being an equation factor.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Smallpox. Polio is too for the most part. Perhaps sars 2003 and mers since they aren't really a thing anymore. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that covid19 will slip into obsolescence.

In California and most other places within the next decade, it's close to fantasy. It looks like coronaviruses are tremendously durable if they make it out of the beta phase. Hawaii and Guam are the parts of the United States I rank as most likely to throttle COVID-19 within the next 5-20 years.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Case numbers are similar but Texas has 10 million fewer people than California. So, we're doing much better on both measures.

Case rates are similar PER CAPITA. Total population size is irrelevant.

Honestly, you accuse the right of making this political but reading your posts, you are also trying really hard to make this political.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by joosoon

Smallpox. Polio is too for the most part. Perhaps sars 2003 and mers since they aren't really a thing anymore. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that covid19 will slip into obsolescence.

1) Smallpox doesn’t mutate at a high rate.
2) People were more open to the smallpox vaccine.

Respiratory viruses that mutate are never through with us, we learn to live with them.