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But my question still remains unanswered, were the people of the Bible living any better, either health wise or morally, then did other people at the same stage of civilization? If yes then maybe the Bible helps, I'd no then how do you give credence to its usefulness, if you do not know then you are making unfounded assertions in order to make an unsupported case.
The reason the Bible is useful to me is that it is like snapshot of the human heart in great moments of clarity. I would compare to wartime literature.
When did you last hear of a soup kitchen run by atheists?
Or of any "good" thing done by atheists?
Ah, the old "well I've never heard of it so it doesn't exist" routine. Lame, very lame.
I'm an atheist, and I've heard of such organizations. But I don't wait to volunteer or donate - I just do it, regardless of whether the organization is atheist or not. I can make up my own mind as to whether it's something I want to support, I don't need some religious authority to tell me. One of my favorite charities is Mercy Corps, an organization inspired by religious ideals. But they don't care whether their donors, volunteers or employees are religiously motivated. And I don't care either.
But the fact that you call them "weak" means that you are insulting the majority of people.
Apparently, you think they're weak too. Or was that some other OzzyRules who said "But why can't you understand that many people don't have the inner resources to get by without religion. "
The reason the Bible is useful to me is that it is like snapshot of the human heart in great moments of clarity. I would compare to wartime literature.
Nothing wrong with it being useful to you. It would be better though if you came up with sounder arguments for its validity or maybe it's usefulness.
Nothing wrong with it being useful to you. It would be better though if you came up with sounder arguments for its validity or maybe it's usefulness.
Why? Do you have plans to get it censored or removed?
Some people find it very useful, and more than that, they feel that they need it. If you don't find it useful then I would say that's a good thing as well.
The reason the Bible is useful to me is that it is like snapshot of the human heart in great moments of clarity. I would compare to wartime literature.
Well, I find it pretty much useless (except for the light it can help shed on history). I mean, Shakespeare did a pretty good job of making snapshots "...of the human heart in great moments of clarity." At least the society he wrote about is more relevant to modern folks than Bronze Age herders.
Why does your opinion have more validity than mine? That is essentially what you are claiming with your "religion is good" routine.
Why? Do you have plans to get it censored or removed?
Some people find it very useful, and more than that, they feel that they need it. If you don't find it useful then I would say that's a good thing as well.
Why would I want it censored? No I would rather have a discussion on a point that was more thought through then ones like the business owner letting his 500 employees die on the street. Especially since this thread is about defeating an atheist in 2 minutes not bringing up easily defeated religious claims.
But if you prefer to post stuff that does not appear well thought out that's your right.
I have once reported a post to the administrator because it broke the terms of service, it was a personal attack, I think maybe on a religious person. Making bad arguments is not against the terms of service.
Why? Do you have plans to get it censored or removed?
That's the plan. censored from influence on education, the law and politics and out of society as much as possible. And removed to the mythology shelf along with all the other obsolete gods and myths about them.
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Some people find it very useful, and more than that, they feel that they need it. If you don't find it useful then I would say that's a good thing as well.
Some people find videos proving a flat earth useful (as astonishing number about, peddling the idiot idea that an aircraft loses rotational momentum as soon as it leaves the ground). If they "Need" it that's up to them, but the rest of us would be better off without it.
I know that If atheists could follow the morals of the Bible, even if they do not believe in a deity, I believe that atheists can better their lives and a great future would be ahead of them.
Killing gays, owning slaves, no, not for me thank you.
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I just wish that People would consider the results of their actions instead of seeing the Bible as harsh and so cruel. If people could see that ignoring the Bible morality standards are causing death, suffering, Pain and killing one another and innocent Children. The Bible shows how to live in a safe, clean healthy and family oriented life - in BIBLICAL Days, Once You are Infected with a Disease - You are doomed to a Life of Horrible Suffering, pain, torment, agony, and Death. No CURES, no medical Treatment, no treatment and no painkillers.
Yet we live longer. It is funny how that works out.
The gospel stories had a different tone than the OT ones, and the way I read it is that Jesus had a different story to tell.
In Matthew he says to obey ALL the OT laws.
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