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It seems to me that 1 percent of the evil done in the name of religion does not discount the 99 percent of good that it does. But you never hear about the good things, right? How often are good things reported? Never. You know that, don't you? Atheists only focus on the negative aspects of religion, as if there are no positives which greatly outweigh them.
All of this grandstanding for atheism won't get anyone anywhere.
Again you try to change the subject rather than confront the issue. In view of your previous posts, this is unsurprising. Either you stand by your statement about the validation of religion and accept the logical consequences, or you stand down from that position in order to disown them. Anything else is smokescreen.
The certain sign that someone is backed into a corner and has no reasonable response to a post, is that person decides to try and make fun of his or her opponent's user name.
I wonder why you are even here. The folks on this board have never made a secret that we are not interested in claims devoid of evidence, not interested in anecdotal argument, not interested in strained or dishonest logic designed to overcome embarrassing facts, and not interested in serving as the devil du jour for zealots with a missionary impulse.
It seems to me that 1 percent of the evil done in the name of religion does not discount the 99 percent of good that it does. But you never hear about the good things, right? How often are good things reported? Never. You know that, don't you? Atheists only focus on the negative aspects of religion, as if there are no positives which greatly outweigh them.
All of this grandstanding for atheism won't get anyone anywhere.
1. It matters a lot if you're in the 1% that are victims. But let's stop and think of the scope -- the shear numbers -- of people in that 1%.
2. Oh come on. We hear about the good things that religions do all the time. Frankly, you run our noses in it. Locally for me, I constantly hear about the good things several religious groups do from friends of mine who are involved in the local soup kitchen. Of course, one of the churches that is close by the soup kitchen isn't as welcoming when the homeless show up at the church as they are at the soup kitchen several blocks away.
Oh come on. We hear about the good things that religions do all the time. Frankly, you run our noses in it. Locally for me, I constantly hear about the good things several religious groups do from friends of mine who are involved in the local soup kitchen. Of course, one of the churches that is close by the soup kitchen isn't as welcoming when the homeless show up at the church as they are at the soup kitchen several blocks away.
When did you last hear of a soup kitchen run by atheists?
I respect the fact that people in this subforum don't need religion. I accept it and believe it. Absolutely.
But why can't you understand that many people don't have the inner resources to get by without religion. What is wrong with people trying to better themselves the only way they know how, and succeeding in doing so?
When did you last hear of a soup kitchen run by atheists?
Or of any "good" thing done by atheists?
Hate to tell you this, but there are a number of people who volunteer at the soup kitchen who are atheists. The difference is that we don't need to b led around on a leash. We volunteer on our own.
I respect the fact that people in this subforum don't need religion. I accept it and believe it. Absolutely.
But why can't you understand that many people don't have the inner resources to get by without religion. What is wrong with people trying to better themselves the only way they know how, and succeeding in doing so?
I think we do realize that there are weak people who have no intrinsic sense of morality and need the structure of a religion...or booze...or drugs...or...
I think we do realize that there are weak people who have no intrinsic sense of morality and need the structure of a religion...or booze...or drugs...or...
But the fact that you call them "weak" means that you are insulting the majority of people.
But the fact that you call them "weak" means that you are insulting the majority of people.
Are you saying that the majority of religious people do not have the inner strength to deal with issues themselves! You brought up that lack of inner strength yourself perhaps implying that religions folks are not as capable as atheist in dealing with life.
I respect the fact that people in this subforum don't need religion. I accept it and believe it. Absolutely.
But why can't you understand that many people don't have the inner resources to get by without religion. What is wrong with people trying to better themselves the only way they know how, and succeeding in doing so?
Atheists have repeated over and over to you that when religion comes to control our lives or dictate science and laws we have a problem with it.
Your attitude comes across as saying that because religion does some good things atheists should just quietly accept religions and religious people doing whatever they like regardless of how it affects them. Or perhaps you read responses in such manner that you seek to find some word or phrase to launch an attack upon. At this point I am not sure that your claim of respect is any more honest than your statistics.
But the fact that you call them "weak" means that you are insulting the majority of people.
I think people who have no intrinsic sense of morality are weak. They reach to religion instead of relying on their own attributes.
But hey, I'm seeing a therapist due to a weakness. Most of us are weak in one way or another.
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