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Old 08-21-2020, 10:54 AM
 
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Nothing new where I am. Conspiracy theorist people virulent anti-maskers (and armed), most people observing the precautions. Surrounding counties go up by three or so cases a day and have been all along. My county stays down around13 cases but there are tons of tourists and visitors and all.

I never went to senior hours, am cautious in my goings-about but not staying home that much. So hot and smoky here in Colorado that I have no desire to go out and about anyway. Very comfortable at home, supporting everything local that I can.
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Old 08-22-2020, 09:27 AM
 
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Mostly to see a few ignorant comments I suppose. If it wasn't so sickening it would be funny. HCQ has been used for over 50 years to prevent malaria etc. It is cheap, often over the counter in many countries. In the tests they have done to place doubt in HCQ it has been given to hospitalized, very sick people. That is not what it is good for. It is good to take early, at the very onset of symptoms. It decreases the viral load and helps the body build immunity of its own. The evidence is out there for those that are not to blind to see.

Unfortunately, President Trump mentioned it and from that moment the media, the dems, a good bunch of the medical set, jumped on it and turned it into practically some kind of poison.

Ignorance is bliss.
Other studies have been done too. Those studies show that if it is given before you become sick with Covid it has no measurable prophylactic effect. When the drug is given to people who have minimal symptoms it is almost impossible to judge whether HCQ made them better or whether they would have gotten better anyway.

I do not understand the determination of people to pursue this drug. At this point, our energies ought to be going into developing treatments that actually work.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105..._railB_article
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Old 08-24-2020, 12:21 PM
 
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Sickening to see the politicization of convalescent plasma which is now touted as a "game-changer" just in time for the RNC. It was brought up early during the POTUS's grandstanding speech today. Meanwhile the experts say that no double-blind studies have been done and the treatment could at best help only 3% of the patients who receive it.
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Old 08-24-2020, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Traveling
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I've totally revised my traveling plans. I've been back in Minnesota since June and was going to leave early September but between the tropical storms heading south, I'll not be taking that route and the fires in the west have me staying away from that route. People in those areas have enough to be worried about and don't need strangers in their midst is what I'm thinking.

Covid has caused so many attractions to be, understandably, shut down that it would be just driving, so I've decided to stay here until the Arizona snowbird season begins and then either do a Long Term Visitor Area or blm land in Arizona until spring.

I'm also reverting back to being a Minnesota resident for Medicare and car insurance purposes. It's more than likely I'll be spending my summers here anyway. Being nine miles from town feels safer right now. My brother has a large garden and my sister raises chickens, so a lot of food is taken care of. We also do internet ordering and Walmart pickup so there's not a lot of social interaction here.

At this point in time I think doing whatever I can to remain safe is the best thing to do. Everyone's plans have had to be adjusted if they want to remain safe. Not always fun, but necessary healthwise.
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Old 08-25-2020, 05:52 AM
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Location: Concord, CA
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I hate this isolation. For me, it's day 164.

However, an an old guy, I realize I'm a prime target.

And then I read stories like this one discussing the long term effects of the Virus:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...mptoms/615382/

"Lauren Nichols has been sick with COVID-19 since March 10, shortly before Tom Hanks announced his diagnosis and the NBA temporarily canceled its season. She has lived through one month of hand tremors, three of fever, and four of night sweats. When we spoke on day 150, she was on her fifth month of gastrointestinal problems and severe morning nausea. She still has extreme fatigue, bulging veins, excessive bruising, an erratic heartbeat, short-term memory loss, gynecological problems, sensitivity to light and sounds, and brain fog. Even writing an email can be hard, she told me, “because the words I think I’m writing are not the words coming out.” She wakes up gasping for air twice a month. It still hurts to inhale.

Tens of thousands of people, collectively known as “long-haulers,” have similar stories. I first wrote about them in early June. Since then, I’ve received hundreds of messages from people who have been suffering for months—alone, unheard, and pummeled by unrelenting and unpredictable symptoms. “It’s like every day, you reach your hand into a bucket of symptoms, throw some on the table, and say, ‘This is you for today,’” says David Putrino, a neuroscientist and a rehabilitation specialist at Mount Sinai Hospital who has cared for many long-haulers."

I really need to avoid that outcome.

You can have unlimited funds, but if you are chronically ill, your life can be pure misery.

I'm awaiting the vaccine. Until then, I'll stay in my bubble and be thankful for everything that makes it possible.
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Old 08-25-2020, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Central NY
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Vision67: Thank you for writing the above ^^^^.

I have been experiencing some of what you described. When some unexplained (to me) pain started, I went to my doctor after I had them for a couple of weeks. Had a chest x-ray. Nothing wrong, no explanation for all the weird things I was having. It started with a couple days of the chills. I almost never get them. No fever. Then other things started. Fatigue. No appetite. Nausea. Confusion, started to worry about my mental status. Was I losing my mind? Scary.

I started to feel more alert and less ill about 5 days ago. But still have times of fatigue, nausea, diarrhea.

I'll get vaccine when it has proven to work.
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Old 08-25-2020, 01:02 PM
 
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I hate this isolation. For me, it's day 164.

However, an an old guy, I realize I'm a prime target.

And then I read stories like this one discussing the long term effects of the Virus:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...mptoms/615382/

"Lauren Nichols has been sick with COVID-19 since March 10, shortly before Tom Hanks announced his diagnosis and the NBA temporarily canceled its season. She has lived through one month of hand tremors, three of fever, and four of night sweats. When we spoke on day 150, she was on her fifth month of gastrointestinal problems and severe morning nausea. She still has extreme fatigue, bulging veins, excessive bruising, an erratic heartbeat, short-term memory loss, gynecological problems, sensitivity to light and sounds, and brain fog. Even writing an email can be hard, she told me, “because the words I think I’m writing are not the words coming out.” She wakes up gasping for air twice a month. It still hurts to inhale.

Tens of thousands of people, collectively known as “long-haulers,” have similar stories. I first wrote about them in early June. Since then, I’ve received hundreds of messages from people who have been suffering for months—alone, unheard, and pummeled by unrelenting and unpredictable symptoms. “It’s like every day, you reach your hand into a bucket of symptoms, throw some on the table, and say, ‘This is you for today,’” says David Putrino, a neuroscientist and a rehabilitation specialist at Mount Sinai Hospital who has cared for many long-haulers."

I really need to avoid that outcome.

You can have unlimited funds, but if you are chronically ill, your life can be pure misery.

I'm awaiting the vaccine. Until then, I'll stay in my bubble and be thankful for everything that makes it possible.

Interesting. I've been following this thing relatively closely from the get go and haven't seen much coverage on these patients w/ long term complications. This sucks - you'd almost rather just completely die off instead of having some of the potential complications for the rest of your life.
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Old 08-26-2020, 12:55 PM
 
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There has been a lot of coverage of the long term complications, maladies, physical consequences, and unrelenting lingering after-effects (sometimes serious) of the coronavirus.
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Old 08-26-2020, 05:23 PM
 
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I heard on the news today the vaccine is well on it's way to becoming reality sooner than later. Some Pharmaceutical companies are already producing 300,000,000 doses before FDA fast track approval happens. That's how confident they are what they've tested works and is safe.

FDA covid vaccine advisory panel has scheduled a major meeting for Oct 22. I have high hopes.
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Old 08-26-2020, 06:27 PM
 
Location: On the wind
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I'll be cautious and wait for a bit before deciding to take the vaccine.
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