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Old 09-18-2023, 03:41 PM
 
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I agree with the bold. I only recognized that the consciousness of God I encountered MATCHED with the "mind of Christ" as described in the narrative about the Cross. Agape love is the key! That is why I found O'Darby's dream about an After-Death communication from Carl Sagan intriguing. Sagan said, "Anyway, it is all about love."
I think you encountered your own brain.
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Old 09-18-2023, 06:29 PM
 
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Control c, control v.
this is a translation for the words of the one who own this planet and own us and to him we shall return.
i advise every one to take it seriously

Those who disbelieve assert that they will not be raised again.
Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Yea, verily, by my Lord! ye will be raised again and then ye will be informed of what ye did;
and that is easy for Allah.
So believe in Allah and His messenger and the light which We have revealed.
And Allah is Informed of what ye do.
The day when He shall gather you unto the Day of Assembling, that will be a day of mutual disillusion.
And whoso believeth in Allah and doeth right,
He will remit from him his evil deeds and will bring him unto Gardens underneath which rivers flow, therein to abide for ever.
That is the supreme triumph.
But those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, such are owners of the Fire;
they will abide therein - a hapless journey's end!
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Old 09-18-2023, 09:30 PM
 
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this is a translation for the words of the one who own this planet and own us and to him we shall return.
i advise every one to take it seriously

Those who disbelieve assert that they will not be raised again.
Say (unto them, O Muhammad): Yea, verily, by my Lord! ye will be raised again and then ye will be informed of what ye did;
and that is easy for Allah.
So believe in Allah and His messenger and the light which We have revealed.
And Allah is Informed of what ye do.
The day when He shall gather you unto the Day of Assembling, that will be a day of mutual disillusion.
And whoso believeth in Allah and doeth right,
He will remit from him his evil deeds and will bring him unto Gardens underneath which rivers flow, therein to abide for ever.
That is the supreme triumph.
But those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, such are owners of the Fire;
they will abide therein - a hapless journey's end!
I grew up with the Christian version of “believe or burn.” I’m not impressed. Nothing new here.
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Old 09-19-2023, 07:23 PM
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that's funny. the soul doesn't need to defend anything or grasp at anything. because it is eternal.
it is only the mind and the ego that grasps, because the ego, and for some the intellect, believes itself to be only a physical body, a physical brain, a physical thinking mind. and yes all of those yes do wither and disappear when the physical body "dies" and decomposes.

the soul laughs and knows it is not those.
And what scientists understand about the mind is very little. They are like the scientists of 1200 AD to physics. But scientists tend to be pretty arrogant. They don't know what they don't know.
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Old 09-19-2023, 07:34 PM
 
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I think you encountered your own brain.
If I believed that, I would be awesomely impressed with myself but know myself too well to believe it. It was NOT remotely me!
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Old 09-19-2023, 09:21 PM
 
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If I believed that, I would be awesomely impressed with myself but know myself too well to believe it. It was NOT remotely me!
The human brain is capable of producing all kinds of powerful and bizarre experiences. Anyone who has ever had a panic attack will tell you. Anyone who has taken psilocybin or LSD will tell you.

You had an experience. Fine. But that doesn’t point to any kind of objective reality, other than the biochemical processes happening in your brain.
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Old 09-19-2023, 11:06 PM
 
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it's funny how there are atheists on the forum who scoff and mock with the phrases "God dunnit" and "sheeple"
but exhibit the same behavior themselves and have no qualms about parroting the phrase themselves "chemicals in the brain dunnit"
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Old 09-19-2023, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Germany
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it's funny how there are atheists on the forum who scoff and mock with the phrases "God dunnit" and "sheeple"
but exhibit the same behavior themselves and have no qualms about parroting the phrase themselves "chemicals in the brain dunnit"
How is that the same behavior, pointing out "chemicals in the brain dunnit" is 1) not mocking anyone, and 2, has evidence for it.

It's funny how you feel threatened by overwhelming evidence you do not like.
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Old 09-19-2023, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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How is that the same behavior, pointing out "chemicals in the brain dunnit" is 1) not mocking anyone, and 2, has evidence for it.

It's funny how you feel threatened by overwhelming evidence you do not like.
This -- https://www.health.harvard.edu/stayi...tress-response -- is too complicated for some people.
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Old 09-20-2023, 07:53 AM
 
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it's funny how there are atheists on the forum who scoff and mock with the phrases "God dunnit" and "sheeple"
but exhibit the same behavior themselves and have no qualms about parroting the phrase themselves "chemicals in the brain dunnit"
There is evidence that brain chemistry affects perception and emotions.*

There is no evidence that “god does it.”

*Drink a few glasses of hard liquor if you don’t believe me.
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