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Old 07-19-2023, 10:00 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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O, is that the lyrics?
You say "gorilla" I say "guerilla".

\m/ let's call the whole thing off. \m/
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Old 07-19-2023, 10:18 AM
 
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https://youtu.be/ZtgPeNKpnyw
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Old 07-20-2023, 06:40 AM
 
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https://youtu.be/vDeVonv3kY0
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Old 07-20-2023, 09:42 AM
 
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https://youtu.be/v4G_0A8Cdkw
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Old 07-21-2023, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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YES!!!! L8 we are twins! This is one of my all time favorite songs and singers. I have YT music and I can ask it to play Midnight Blue and it will continue playing similar songs from the same genre, it's great.

I'm going to post the video of it and then one that I really enjoy and I think religious people can relate to it also, it's kind of whatever you want to read into it type of song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4G_0A8Cdkw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sg2XAlK2T8
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Old 07-21-2023, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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This is another good one from Shinedown:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIx154rZkzE
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Old 07-22-2023, 05:34 PM
 
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Totally forgot about this one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkaBp10Im98
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Old 07-22-2023, 07:37 PM
 
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in response to post above with music from "Oliver Shanti"

The musician "Oliver Shanti" (a German born Ulrich Schulz) was arrested in Lisbon, Portugal in June 2008 and charged with 314 cases of child abuse in April 2009. After having attempted suicide during his pre-trial custody, Oliver Shanti was sentenced to six years and 10 months in prison in December 2009. A Munich court convicted him of 76 counts of child sexual abuse.

If a post is going to promote the music of someone convicted of 76 counts of child sexual abuse, then it is going to get pointed out on a thread about inspirational music.
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Old 07-22-2023, 07:48 PM
 
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Genre, composition, instrumentation and lyrics aren't necessarily important. It's the raw subjective experience or qualia that touches you directly and deeply, perhaps even beyond explanation, and that's a commonality above and beyond all our apparent difference.
so in the case of, for example on this thread music being posted from musician imprisoned in Germany for 76 counts of child sexual abuse (after being charged with 314 counts of child abuse), is that "necessarily important" ? Does it matter with regards to "inspirational music"? In my view it does. It raises the question do we continue to promote and praise the music of people who have committed abhorrent violent criminal acts? how does it change how we view their music? that is relevant (to me anyway) on a thread about where we draw inspiration. I'd be interested in hearing readers views on this, on how it affects their listening pleasure when they find something out like this. Or whether it makes any difference at all.

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Old 07-23-2023, 09:04 AM
 
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so in the case of, for example on this thread music being posted from musician imprisoned in Germany for 76 counts of child sexual abuse (after being charged with 314 counts of child abuse), is that "necessarily important" ? Does it matter with regards to "inspirational music"? In my view it does. It raises the question do we continue to promote and praise the music of people who have committed abhorrent violent criminal acts? how does it change how we view their music? that is relevant (to me anyway) on a thread about where we draw inspiration. I'd be interested in hearing readers views on this, on how it affects their listening pleasure when they find something out like this. Or whether it makes any difference at all.
I don't often agree with you, and of course music has a way of "taking on a life of it's own" not having all that much to do with the artist or who they are as a person other than a musician. I also don't typically know all that much about music other than how it sounds to me and whether I like to listen to it or not. A great lover of music though I am, so there's all that, and often we're better off not knowing all that much else about musicians. Many of whom have "questionable" personal lives, but ultimately I think you are right. Once we know a musician (or artist or politician or whomever) has committed injury, abuse or crimes against others, we should not only no longer support them but denounce them.

Reminds me of the same issue when it comes to Civil War heroes and what to do with Confederate monuments now that we've come to better appreciate what fighting to preserve the institution of slavery was actually all about.

Henry Weinstein also comes to mind, but I have to admit I still allow myself to watch his movies. Where to draw the line? I'm not sure, but he's in jail, so I figure justice served either way, and why punish the actors in those movies too? Bit of a Catch 22 there...
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