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Is it possible that God gathered one of the man-like creatures (homonoids or whatever you want to call them) that roamed the earth just like the other animals and changed him so that he could THINK and know right from wrong? Changed him so that he would know who and what God was????
Is it possible that the "made in his own image" meant that he became a reasoning being? He became a companion because of whatever gave him the ability to converse with God.
I really don't think it means a Physical image with facial hair and a penis. Does God have kidneys and bowels?
You are a thinker... congratulations you are evolving from someone who lets others think for them into someone who thinks for themselves. Gods image is not physical.
Remember as well in the Christian bible when they ate of the fruit what was said..... "They will become like US".
For those that believe in Jesus and his teachings, I just don't understand how you can not believe the Bible in its entirety. If one part is true, it's all true. Hence if one part is false, it's all false.
It's not necessarily a matter of true or false. It's more a matter of how much of the Bible is intended to be read literally, and how much is to be understood for the message underlying the story, rather than taking the story at face value.
Because when you boil it all down, all Genesis really says is God created the universe and everything in it. It just uses a lot of flowery language and description to drive the point home. My $0.02.
Because when you boil it all down, all Genesis really says is God created the universe and everything in it. It just uses a lot of flowery language and description to drive the point home. My $0.02.
Whew! I'm not sure what version of the Bible you are reading, but you can't 'boil down' my Bible's Genesis to that.
Evolution is man's way of explaining why we're here without the need for God.
Nah. Evolution is simply science's way of trying to figure out the way things work from the evidence presented. And the evidence is pretty overwhelming, from the sheer variety of animals on Earth today, to the fossil record, to the DNA evidence. If evolution is not true, then God sure put forth a lot of evidence trying trick us.
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Now, I suppose you have to first believe the Bible is what it claims to be: the inerrant, infallible Word of God as written by men's hand at the direction of the Holy Spirit. God was the author, man was just his pen.
And I would agree with that.
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IMO, this does not mean it is full of errors or contradictions or twisted by men of power or translators.
Still agreed.
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So I suppose if you don't believe the Word of God is what it claims, you can tweak it all you want to allow almost anything you want to allow.
But there you lose me. If you tell me that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God, I'm with you. But if you try to tell me that every word and line is absolutely 100% literal, then you've lost me, because it is so plainly and self-evidently not. The Bible is FILLED with metaphoric language -- trees clapping their hands, talking snakes, hardened hearts, covered ears, three headed dragons, monsters that would give Harryhausen nightmares, etc.
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I just don't understand how you can not believe the Bible in its entirety. If one part is true, it's all true. Hence if one part is false, it's all false. You can't say the parts you agree with are true and the parts you don't agree with are "errors" or "metaphor" or "allegory". Genesis is historical narrative. It is not allegory.
It's not allegory, but much of it is metaphor. The Bible is certainly all true, but that does not mean it is all literal. Big difference.
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Those who believe in both evolution and God of the Bible are basically equating science with the Word of God, saying science is just as reliable and infallible as God's Word
No. We are affirming that the Bible is not a science textbook, any more than it is a cookbook. The Bible is a testament of faith and a record of God's redemption of mankind.
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God is perfect and God's Word says God was there in the beginning and he did it all.
Agreed. But how did He do it? And don't just say, "He's God; He just did." Yes, I know, but the works of God are evident in creation. (See Romans.) The methods of creation are evident in the world around us -- where we came from, how the world came to be, etc. Studying that does not negate God in any way.
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Also, there is sound, empirical science that when interpreted in light of the Holy Word
But the Bible is not a science book. It never makes any such claim of itself.
Whew! I'm not sure what version of the Bible you are reading, but you can't 'boil down' my Bible's Genesis to that.
Well, OK, to be clear, the Genesis creation story. I know there's more to Genesis than that, but I thought it was clear we were discussing the creation story only ...
I take the talking snake, etc. to be LITERAL, but thats just IMHO.
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