[robertbrianbush]

Originally Posted by Karl Lagos

There's no guilt lol. That is an individual thing. Individuals can be guilty of various crimes.

How did you arrive at that conclusion? There absolutely is guilt. Nations, corporations, organizations, and societies can all carry guilt too.

[Nonesuch]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

If DEI was such a nothingburger, he could've done - nothing - and no one would care. He did this not because DEI is a problem,

Who is saying DEI is a "nothingburger"?

Many of the backers are using DEI to turn concerns about past discrimination into modern day thought-policing and discrimination in the name of "anti-racism" and "equity". Requiring faculty and prospective hires to provide "diversity statements" is just a new twist on McCarthyism

[Karl Lagos]

Originally Posted by robertbrianbush

How did you arrive at that conclusion? There absolutely is guilt. Nations, corporations, organizations, and societies can all carry guilt too.

In a civil court.

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by Nonesuch

Who is saying DEI is a "nothingburger"?

Many of the backers are using DEI to turn concerns about past discrimination into modern day thought-policing and discrimination in the name of "anti-racism" and "equity". Requiring faculty and prospective hires to provide "diversity statements" is just a new twist on McCarthyism

Spend a moment reading the post that I responded to. Context is everything.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by grad_student200

I am confused as to why the elimination of a very miniscule subset of DEI programs caused so much turmoil.

because it's the liberals and DeSantis....

in a normal world it would not have even been a speed bump....and to make your point...it isn't in other states

...but other states don't have "Whacked Out Florida Liberal Man"....LOL

"There are currently more than 30 bills across the country targeting DEI funding, practices, and promotion at schools. As of Jan. 31, seven have been signed into law by a governor: two in Florida, one in each of the Dakotas, one in Tennessee, one in Texas, and most recently, one in Utah. Only a few other bills have reached the final stages of approval while the majority are still moving through their state legislatures."

Florida's law just bans schools from using federal and state funds to finance it.....

....North Dakota was actually the first state to ban it.....April 2023.....it went into effect August 2023....North Dakota just doesn't have the FLASH BANG...of Florida LOL...and calling North Dakotans a bunch of knuckle dragging racists goes nowhere

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-...n-a-legal-bind

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Diversity is now a dog whistle for "we're right" because you're bad.

[Corrie22]

....or just excusing trash behavior

call them on it....and it instantly becomes ”culture”.........and you're racist

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn

Diversity is now a dog whistle for "we're right" because you're bad.

You should check YouTube for Alan Dershowitz’s response on diversity, equity and inclusion. While I agree with him, It is virtually unprintable within the TOS. I have written previously that our prisons should look more like America. Same with our basketball and football teams.

[StarryKnight1]

What other roles did they hire for, though?

A lot of time, things like this are just meaningless paper-based formalities, or publicity stunts.

[kjm-1995]

I have been working at my alma mater for ten years and generally believe people have the wrong idea about DEI. The professionals working in these positions work to ensure fair outcomes for minority students within environments where latent biases can go unchecked (leading to potential conflicts between students and university staff) and some cultural notions can be assumed to be universal (when they actually aren’t, which can lead to misunderstanding of class discussions & materials.)

The people who try to ensure diversity quotas in admissions are a separate group entirely, and while they exist under the umbrella of DEI, I don’t think treating both of these groups of employees in the same way makes any sense.

Universities are not quite as forward thinking and amenable to progress as one might think. Individual professors might be, sure, but they usually have limited decision making power in comparison to the real decision makers: Administration. In many ways, their operating procedures are still stuck in the dark ages. It’s difficult enough for white students to navigate this environment, but I imagine it’s hell for minority students. I don’t envy them one bit, and it’s kind of a major W that there even are services which are designed to bridge this gap at all.