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Old 04-14-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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So then you have average performers, but you're content to leave them as average and not help them to improve? You may be missing out on a diamond in the rough. That's a disservice to you, and to your employees.
Disservice to me? Are you aware of the term called "opportunity cost"? I spend my time with employees who are/or have a potential to be high performers. I choose to focus my efforts, money and time on people who can generate the highest ROI. Very simple concept. I treat high performers differently than everyone else. Will this method fail to account for one one percent of people who might otherwise go from middle to the top? Yes, at the expense of 10% that make me most of the money.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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didn't read all posts, but I'll just say that "I'm a really blunt and candid guy" means you have no tact, which yes, is a bad thing.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:26 AM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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Actually that's completely wrong. A good manager doesn't have people talking behind their backs because they know there is an open line of communication with management. Granted there will always be that one person who does this, if it's expected as the norm there are serious issues there.
Your naivete is a perfect example of why you are a, what I assume a middle manager earning 1/1Xth of what I do.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:27 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Average managers care about "what their employees say behind their back". I don't. And, not because I am some sort of a maverick, or have an attitude of me against the world, but because those people would be saying things behind my back no matter what. That is the reflection of them as human beings first and foremost, and employees second.

Not only do I accept that as a "possibility", but I actively expect it and manage it accordingly.

It sounds like being blunt and direct is not a bad thing in your case because you are indifferent to how other people understood/react to your communication style. It seems to work with your employees, seeing as you are the CEO of your own company so they have to put up with it, but I don't see how it can be a good thing in any other relationship which is what the scope of the original post was about.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Average managers care about "what their employees say behind their back". I don't. And, not because I am some sort of a maverick, or have an attitude of me against the world, but because those people would be saying things behind my back no matter what. That is the reflection of them as human beings first and foremost, and employees second.

Not only do I accept that as a "possibility", but I actively expect it and manage it accordingly.

It's good that you're the CEO then, as the self-adoration wouldn't fly anywhere else.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:36 AM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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It sounds like being blunt and direct is not a bad thing in your case because you are indifferent to how other people understood/react to your communication style. It seems to work with your employees, seeing as you are the CEO of your own company so they have to put up with it, but I don't see how it can be a good thing in any other relationship which is what the scope of the original post was about.
It has everything to the with the original post. The premise is that somehow a competent, efficient, results oriented direct person should adapt to someone who is not. As to "include everyone", or "not to alienate". I reject that premise.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:38 AM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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It's good that you're the CEO then, as the self-adoration wouldn't fly anywhere else.
Self-adoration? Give me a break. Look at the forest beyond the trees.
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Old 04-14-2015, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Self-adoration? Give me a break. Look at the forest beyond the trees.
You at least have the corporate lingo down well enough to be a CEO.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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OMG....This is so true. I was raised in So. California From a "we never met a stranger" type family background....I have had so many of the same experiences, up here in N.D. and M.N. country.

Especially a regional thing. People like to pretend they appreciate honest open communication...But get offended and run when it happens.
The positive side of it is, if you're in a situation where you want to get a Minnesotan (or North Dakotan) out of your life forever, just be bluntly honest with them. You'll never hear from them again.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:00 PM
 
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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It's good that you're the CEO then, as the self-adoration wouldn't fly anywhere else.
I put my money, time and effort where my mouth is. Or better yet, my brain. You?
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