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It's also a good illustration of how many people either can't read or can't be bothered to read. I wonder how many who've responded to this thread have actually read the complete article.
No, but I wish they had figured out a way to air condition the fields when I cropped tobacco, picked corn and peaches in a Southern US humid summer.
Americans are rather spoiled. I can say I worked for a large cable company and had to pick up equipment from our central warehouse once a week-- the warehouse was not temperature controlled.
Even in warm summers in Europe or in some of the North African countries-- the amount of "air conditioning" used is by no means comparable to what Americans expect.
As another poster said-- sure some warehouses HAVE to be climate controlled-- but who do you think ultimately pays for that cost for an air conditioned warehouse?
Ah, so because you had a crappy job that made you miserable, everyone else should, too?
Also, there is a difference between being spoiled and not wanting to endanger your health. 110 degrees in a warehouse is dangerous. No one is saying it has to be 72 degrees, but 110 is right out.
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This thread is a good illustration of what is wrong with Americans and why nothing ever changes here:
1. Americans HATE Americans and will line up to kick their fellow citizen in the a** when they are down.
2. Americans are in love with corporations and will make ANY and EVERY excuse for their poor behavior.
3. Americans like pain. They especially like to see other Americans in pain and they LOVE to blame those individuals for their pain.
Yep. It comes back to self-loathing. I'm convinced of it. "I'm too weak to stand up for myself, and I'm miserable because of it, so you should just suck it up and be miserable, too."
This thread is a good illustration of what is wrong with Americans and why nothing ever changes here:
1. Americans HATE Americans and will line up to kick their fellow citizen in the a** when they are down.
2. Americans are in love with corporations and will make ANY and EVERY excuse for their poor behavior.
3. Americans like pain. They especially like to see other Americans in pain and they LOVE to blame those individuals for their pain.
On the contrary, I see the article as a good illustration of what is wrong with America and why we are losing the great status of what we once were:
1.) Americans are becoming soft, spoiled, and lazy.
2.) Americans love to blame others for their own misfortunes, bad luck, bad decisions, or irresponsibility.
3.) Americans have an uncomfortable sense of entitlement.
Again, complaining about heat in a warehouse? It's like working in a hospital and complianing that you have to work around sick people. If not from a legitimate news source I would interpret it as a Onion-type of joke news. If it was on TV I would think it was a Saturday Night Live skit. I live near Memphis, the "nations distribution center". I almost guarantee half the cities blue collar workers are laughing at this article.
Evaporative Air Cooling is cheap and good for large spaces. That's what Amazon should try.
Yeah, "swamp coolers". But they aren't really effective in humid climates and even in dry climates they don't effectivly lower the temperature. The best you can do sometimes is have exhaust fans in the ceilings and walls to get that hot air out, and ventilate. Another option is to set up portable evaporate cooling machines, basically 8 foot movable fans attached to water hoses, near the activity areas - loading and receiving areas. It helps a bit.
Even a/c'd warehouses are no comfort zone. Most I have been in keep the temps over 80.
On the contrary, I see the article as a good illustration of what is wrong with America and why we are losing the great status of what we once were:
1.) Americans are becoming soft, spoiled, and lazy.
2.) Americans love to blame others for their own misfortunes, bad luck, bad decisions, or irresponsibility.
3.) Americans have an uncomfortable sense of entitlement.
We have been told from birth that we live in the wealthiest and the best nation in the history of the earth. Why not expect more not only from yourself but also from corporations?
We have been told from birth that we live in the wealthiest and the best nation in the history of the earth. Why not expect more not only from yourself but also from corporations?
What I expect when I took my warehouse job in central florida years ago as a college student was no A/C. That's what I got. I didn't complain. I sweated, ALOT!
What I expect now when I visit a warehouse in my corporate logistics related role - In Singapore, in Brazil, and in the US - is to find non-A/C warehouses as the industry standard, unless required for product related reasons. I dress accordingly. I still sweat alot.
I am a quality and regulatory specialist for my company. What I expect and also review for in warehouses is safe working conditions - secured product and shelving, exits, safety training, fire extinguishers and other safety gear, etc. If I find safety issues you bet I report it, and insist that management fix it. There is a reason OSHA just brushed these heat comments off.
There is a reason OSHA just brushed these heat comments off.
My point exactly when I questioned how many people contributing to this thread actually took the time to read the article in its entirety ... I think few.
What I expect when I took my warehouse job in central florida years ago as a college student was no A/C. That's what I got. I didn't complain. I sweated, ALOT!
What I expect now when I visit a warehouse in my corporate logistics related role - In Singapore, in Brazil, and in the US - is to find non-A/C warehouses as the industry standard, unless required for product related reasons. I dress accordingly. I still sweat alot.
Hence the term "sweatshop."
Did you walk to school barefoot through a snake-infested swamp, too? Let me guess: Uphill in both directions.
We have been told from birth that we live in the wealthiest and the best nation in the history of the earth. Why not expect more not only from yourself but also from corporations?
Because you are a human RESOURCE, not a person! Don't you know that your sole purpose as a drone in the hive is to work your arse off and risk your health to put money in some CEO's pockets so he can go buy a summer home in the Hamptons and make sure his daughter's birthday party ends up on "My Super Sweet 16?"
Shame on you, expecting to be treated like a sentient being! That does it: We're shipping your job to India!
Did you walk to school barefoot through a snake-infested swamp, too? Let me guess: Uphill in both directions.
No that's not "hence the term sweatshop'. You do not know what the term historically conotates. It is not related to heat at all - but other conditions including physical abuse, child labor, workers crowded into small work rooms, etc, particularly in the late 1800's garmet industry. The supervisor of such operations was knows as the 'sweater'. From those turn of the century issues - OSHA and other government regulation was formed. From the article, no government regulation was violated. No warehouse workers are not entitled to "A/C" any more than roof workers are.
You're other comment is as relevant as, well, using the term sweatshop. Or I can just say "WTF does that have to do with the topic?"
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Hence the term "sweatshop." 
