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Old 05-17-2013, 12:25 AM
 
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Ok, so just as an example, say one was captured.

a) we would want to do tests to destruction. That means we would want to cut it up, poke it, prod it, test it for this that and the other. We would want to see if it could help us cure disease by using its antibodies etc etc. Basically, mankind is terrible. The ET film might have been fiction, but it is just the kind of reaction the authorities and scientists would have if we captured one.

b) What would happen if we found that the DNA was TOTALLY different from ours? So we have just found another species which is bi-pedal and does not descend from homo sapiens. Can you imagine the huge number of people who would be uncomfortable about this?
They already found a species like that, in Indonesia. Flores Man. But instead of being larger than humans, it's a pygmoid species. They died out some generations ago, but their bones were found. There was a similar find somewhere in the Pacific Islands, as well. Anthropologists are finding more and more evolutionary "dead end" species among ancient African remains. If the human tree had many branches way back when, one or two extra branches may have survived into modern times.

Maybe.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:46 AM
 
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It's too bad that my dad is dead and that I have no clue where the Bigfoot print castings he did in Equador are, probably still there. But he was a scientist. He would say Bigfoot is real. Maybe not as the perception we have, but real none the less.
What's your dad's name? I might be able to look up his work or colleagues in Ecuador. Why didn't he bring a cast back home with him?
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:44 AM
 
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Actually, little of my facts come from TV. I am simply placing TV where it belongs on the scale of the American mythic experience.
I spent years studying anthropology and psychology, then later got into mythology and culture. I would say my greatest influences are Joseph Campbell, Robert Bly, Carl Jung and even Sam Keen. While I would not consider Carlos Catenada to be an expert in mythology, his writings certainly embody mythology as practiced by shamans. I would first ask, do you even know what myths are? If so, then once you complete the readings of the previous authors, please get back with me and we will discuss further what meaning the bigfoot myth has in America today.
Another armchair expert with no real want to be proved wrong by actual experience. Get back to me when you can man up and go experience for your self. I started trying to bust this as a hoax back i the late 90's and i was surprised at the things i learned after meeting a few people and talking to a few relatives.

You have a good weekend and feel so good also.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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I have heard of a lot of those DNA TESTS come back as unknown primate. You and a friend are welcome to go to the woods with me.

Hot,Sticky,Cold/freezing,Ticks,Chiggers,Snakes, Wild hogs. Wild cattle.Up all night, Are ya man enough?
There's millions to be made with a valid bigfoot confirmation.

There is also millions being made giving bigfoot tours, bigfoot hunting TV shows, writing books about bigfoot, selling bigfoot "evidence" like photos, videos, prints etc.

Funny how there has never been a single valid bigfoot confirmation....but there sure has been a boatload of fakes that keep millions being made. Wierd huh?

P.S. Did you really just ask if I'd be "man enough" to spend the night with you? Will there be banjo music? A juvenile response to a juvenile statement.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:41 AM
 
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They already found a species like that, in Indonesia. Flores Man. But instead of being larger than humans, it's a pygmoid species. They died out some generations ago, but their bones were found. There was a similar find somewhere in the Pacific Islands, as well. Anthropologists are finding more and more evolutionary "dead end" species among ancient African remains. If the human tree had many branches way back when, one or two extra branches may have survived into modern times.

Maybe.
There is a long shamanic tradition in the pacific northwest where they would spend years going out into the woods and living as "wildmen". I don't doubt that there are things like this actually occurring.

That's the trickier part of a discussion, when there IS something real going on but it's misidentified or attributed to something that isn't real.

It get's even messier when you have:

1) A real but rare phenomena. (lets say a real bigfoot)
2) Similar real phenomena (lets say shamanic wildmen)
3) Similar faked phenomena for profit (people making fake tracks, making bigfoot suits etc.)

#2 and #3 are proven to be real.....#1 is unproven.
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Old 05-17-2013, 10:13 AM
 
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There's millions to be made with a valid bigfoot confirmation.

There is also millions being made giving bigfoot tours, bigfoot hunting TV shows, writing books about bigfoot, selling bigfoot "evidence" like photos, videos, prints etc.

Funny how there has never been a single valid bigfoot confirmation....but there sure has been a boatload of fakes that keep millions being made. Wierd huh?

P.S. Did you really just ask if I'd be "man enough" to spend the night with you? Will there be banjo music? A juvenile response to a juvenile statement.
Talk is cheap. I offer up a way to give you quality information. You guys are time wasters
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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Talk is cheap. I offer up a way to give you quality information. You guys are time wasters
I love to watch the BigFoot shows because I WOULDN'T go out in the wilderness. Sorry -- WAY too scary.

But I do know one thing. How many times have you gone into the wilderness and found a dead anything. You rarely find a dead anything because the forces of nature use the carcass of the dead thing for food and that includes bone. There are a number of wild animal jaws that are perfect for cracking bones to get at the luscious marrow.

So not finding a dead BigFoot doesn't mean anything other than the forces of nature are at work, and the circle of life is complete.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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For we actually know they might eat their dead like some ancient tribes did in the past and some recent cannibals.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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I love to watch the BigFoot shows because I WOULDN'T go out in the wilderness. Sorry -- WAY too scary.

But I do know one thing. How many times have you gone into the wilderness and found a dead anything. You rarely find a dead anything because the forces of nature use the carcass of the dead thing for food and that includes bone. There are a number of wild animal jaws that are perfect for cracking bones to get at the luscious marrow.

So not finding a dead BigFoot doesn't mean anything other than the forces of nature are at work, and the circle of life is complete.
But dead things have been found, maybe not frequently, maybe not by you, but someone in history has found dead things, except for bigfoot of course.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:35 PM
 
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For we actually know they might eat their dead like some ancient tribes did in the past and some recent cannibals.
You base this off of what evidence? What physical evidence do you have that shows that a bigfoot will eat its dead to the point of not leaving a single trace of it?
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