Kia Graves Rape Case (friend, criminal, evidence, news)
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The only one who said she was drunk was the 16 year old kid in the written confession. And you just said the confession was coerced. So which is it -- the confession is accurate (where he said she's drunk) or the confession is false (where he said he raped her when she's sleeping) because if was coerced?
You can't have it both ways. You are really grasping at straws.
"any cop can coerce a 16 yr old boy to write anything on a paper"
"any cop can coerce a 16 yr old boy to write anything on a paper"
If that's your position, then why are you stating that the woman was drunk when the only place that appears is in the "coerced" (your word) confession. You seem really dense on this matter.
If that's your position, then why are you stating that the woman was drunk when the only place that appears is in the "coerced" (your word) confession. You seem really dense on this matter.
My guess is that these two who are trying to put the blame on the woman are under 30 and unmarried. In other words kids not aware of the real world yet.... they really should be ignored...
While i think its terrible what happened to this woman and her kid i do have to say a few things.
A. I never understood leaving an apt door open in any type of building even if your family lives on the same floor. Fine lets say you leave it open during the day/afternoon why dont you close it when going to sleep, especially with a child?
B. Why fire the doorman? He was the only staff at the time what could he have done, after 10mins maybe start checking the cameras (would be hard to catch the right floor at the right time) lets say he sees something then what? Only 4 options are 1.call the tenant which might lead to an encounter and maybe someone could be killed. 2.Call the police and wait until they show up but then the crime would have happened. 3.If lucky enough to see the kid checking doors and finally going inside an apt then go to the rescue but watch someone make a complaint that theres was no doorman for said period of time,etc 4. Do all 3 and hope for the best
C. Lots of crimes/sex happen in doorman buildings all the time. As a real estate agent I hear so many stories from doorman, tenants, management companies, supers, porters regarding theft in buildings from either tenants or workers in the building who know which apts are open, comings and goings from certain tenants schedule. Couples cheating with neighbors on the roofdeck, pools, gyms, etc
D. Another example of why people should stop asking "IS IT SAFE" as things happen everywhere.
Sure buddy.. why don't you leave your doors unlock, leave the keys to your car on the ignition, walk around with all your valuables...nothing bad will happen to you. You are not aware of the real world. You put yourself in a bad situation nothing good will come out of it.
I wouldn't have thought twice about this case if she hadn't come forward and plastered her name and face in a feature story. What's the point of that, maybe to influence potential jurors in her lawsuits? I can't imagine she would orchestrate a fake rape but the story has some odd aspects and from the few pictures she looks like she might be a little on the "big" side and might be able to handle herself against a 130 pound kid. But then she might have been afraid for her daughter so I can't conclude why she didn't fight him. Also it sounds like she could use the money after a modest career as an actress about 20 years ago. Now it says she's working for a "reputable modeling agency" scouting models. Now that's an industry know for scamming would-be models. All that said, I don't know what happened but her actions now look to be all about money.
I never blamed the victim. I just said some of the "actions" that went down are pretty questionable. It's hard to believe someone is being raped in a bed and someone else in the same bed did not hear or at least feel the extra weight on the bed.
As far as a confession goes, any cop can coerce a 16 yr old boy to write anything on a paper. Are you that naive?
No but obviously you are---I wish that on all these posts we knew the demographics of the poster as it would tell us a lot about their strange responses
The more I read that story the more respect I lost for the victim. I understand the fear and all, but seriously, what is firing the doorman going to accomplish? Apparently the pizza delivery guy was "roaming too much", but come the **** on! There's many reasons as to why a pizza delivery guy may be taking a long time, and a lot of those reasons don't involve rape. All she did was ruin the poor doorman's life. Also, suing the pizzeria?! WTF?!!?
I wouldn't have thought twice about this case if she hadn't come forward and plastered her name and face in a feature story. What's the point of that, maybe to influence potential jurors in her lawsuits? I can't imagine she would orchestrate a fake rape but the story has some odd aspects and from the few pictures she looks like she might be a little on the "big" side and might be able to handle herself against a 130 pound kid. But then she might have been afraid for her daughter so I can't conclude why she didn't fight him. Also it sounds like she could use the money after a modest career as an actress about 20 years ago. Now it says she's working for a "reputable modeling agency" scouting models. Now that's an industry know for scamming would-be models. All that said, I don't know what happened but her actions now look to be all about money.
Again with these comments you show your ignorance of the crime of rape--- it has nothing to do with how a woman looks or what actions she takes... You can't conclude why she did not fight him--- did you miss the part about her daughter ? This is not to say that false accusations do not occur but they usually do not come along with a signed confession.
WOW, not cool. Your gonna wish innocent people harm and being violated to prove a point to some random posters
Yep because if it did happen to someone you know and cared about, you would never , ever think to blame the victim no matter what she was or was not doing. Victim blaming and the lack of sympathy is part of the problem. She can make poor choices but that does not ever excuse criminal behavior. If a woman wearing a burka, with a male escort, can get raped, it shows how often there is little women can do to prevent such things. Fact remains that it doesn't matter what she was or wasn't doing, since he was the one committing the crime. All that needed to be done to prevent this was for him to NOT rape her. The blame is with the rapist.
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You are not aware of the real world. You put yourself in a bad situation nothing good will come out of it.
