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I believe there were three perps,we are a small group of individuals, two are watching over JB
(The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you so I advise you not to provoke them)
and one writing the letter.( Any deviation of MY instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter.)
Also there were two unidentified foot prints by JB body,
Footprints in Basement. "Several recently-made unidentified shoeprints were found in the basement, imprinted in mold growing on the basement floor. (SMF P 151; PSMF P 151.) In particular, a shoeprint of a "HI-TEC" brand mark on the sole of a shoe was found. (SMF P 152; PSMF P 152.) Defendants do not own any "HI-TEC" brand shoes, and none of the shoes found in their home match the shoeprint marks. (SMF P 153; PSMF P 153.) Another partial shoeprint was found near where JonBenet's body was found. (SMF P 155; PSMF P 155.) This shoeprint left only a partial logo. The owner of the "HI-TEC" shoe that made the shoeprints at the murder scene has never been identified. (SMF P 154, 155; PSMF P 154, 155.)" (Carnes 2003:19).
Well there were at least three "perps". Patsy Ramsey. John Ramsey and the third individual whose DNA was found.
Three pieces of evidence stands out to me, Male DNA on JB body that were not the Ramseys, two different shoe prints next to JB body that were not the Ramseys
The Ransom Letter
There are historical examples of notes used successfully to secure ransoms even in cases where the kidnap victims were killed both before and after the notes were written. Thus, the fact that JBR was found dead cannot itself be taken as definitive proof that the RN was not genuine.
The killers were holding out for the money.
Douglas wrote that Lou Smit had an "interesting alternative theory" which was this:
"If an intruder was planning to flee to Mexico, at the exchange rate in effect at the time, 118,000 would have yielded 1 million pesos."
Three pieces of evidence stands out to me, Male DNA on JB body that were not the Ramseys, two different shoe prints next to JB body that were not the Ramseys
The Ransom Letter
There are historical examples of notes used successfully to secure ransoms even in cases where the kidnap victims were killed both before and after the notes were written. Thus, the fact that JBR was found dead cannot itself be taken as definitive proof that the RN was not genuine.
The killers were holding out for the money.
Douglas wrote that Lou Smit had an "interesting alternative theory" which was this:
"If an intruder was planning to flee to Mexico, at the exchange rate in effect at the time, 118,000 would have yielded 1 million pesos."
They could have gotten more. John Ramsey was a millionaire. Why wouldn't they have just asked him for a million dollars if money was ever the goal for the killer? It wouldn't be the first time historically a person was ransomed for a million.
They could have gotten more. John Ramsey was a millionaire. Why wouldn't they have just asked him for a million dollars if money was ever the goal for the killer? It wouldn't be the first time historically a person was ransomed for a million.
And herein should be the clue that would surely tell anyone that a family member would not be so STUPID as to ask for the exact amount of a bonus check!
Someone outside the family, but who had access to this information, discovered the amount of that check. This is another reason that it points to someone young and with a not-so-high IQ.
On one hand, the perp was thinking - let's ask for the quick money - we know that he just deposited that check so he is bound to have it as "cash on hand" and can easily obtain it.
On the other hand, the perp was too dumb to realize that this would signal that someone with ties to the family (or John's business) would know about the amount of that check.
That has been something I have ruminated about for years.
Have you ever known anyone this wealthy? I have. And trust me, folks who are worth millions don't go around discussing their finances, even with close friends.
However, there are people all along the way who would have be aware of the amount of that check. Just think about it.
People in the accounting department. People at the bank. Was there a stub to that check? Most certainly. Was it sitting out on a table in the home at some point -- where a workman or housekeeper could have seen it? And then there are deposit slips . . . could that have been out somewhere?
Could Burke have bragged to one of his little friends . . . I know Santa is going to be good to me this year - My Daddy got a check for $118K. Could a housekeeper have told her family at the dinner table - "those people have more money than God. I saw John's bonus - JUST HIS BONUS!!! - and it was more than most people make in a year! $118K!" and then one of the family members told a friend - those folks have money just sitting around . . . Or substitute bank teller for housekeeper . . .the person who saw or heard about the amount of that check could have been blabbing without any thought of someone actually wanting to RIP THE MONEY OFF THE RAMSEYS!
This really IS how life unfolds.
So this whole thing of trying to pin that letter on the Ramseys b/c it had the exact amount of a check on it - I find it ridiculous. They would have put the ransom into the millions b/c who would think someone would go to the trouble of kidnapping a wealthy person's child for a mere $100K? Heck no. I would hate to think that someone would kidnap me and find my value to only be $100K!!! That is one reason it sounds to me that the perps (and I do believe there was more than one) were either YOUNG, from another country, or both. And they certainly are not mega brains or they would have not said stupid things in that note.
And think about this: JOHN IS NOT A SOUTHERNER. Nor does he have a Southern accent. So who assumed he was Southern? No one in Boulder did. He had just recently won an award for Businessman of the Year. His bio was published and well known.
However, someone who knew PATSY could make the assumption that they were BOTH Southerners. WHen I say "knew" . . . I mean - had seen her around the house . . . at the market . . . at a beauty pageant . . . in church . . . whatever. She was obviously Southern.
Whoever wrote that note had a disdain for Southerners and couldn't resist putting a snide comment about John's "southernness" into the note.
Having lived in the Midwest and spent time in Boulder, I can assure you, my Southern accent was seen as "hillbilly" -- not aristocratic Southerner -- by the majority of folks. I had people ask me on many occasions why I didn't hire a speech coach to "get rid of that Southern accent." Now that is my personal experience and when it happens over and over . . . you come to realize that in most of the rest of the country, people have never even SPENT TIME in the South and they cannot distinguish between an uneducated "hillbilly" country accent and an aristocratic old-money upperclass educated Southern accent.
The small things tell us a lot about the perps. Why people are trying to twist it around and make it about the Ramseys rather than the perps is backwards. People just want to believe that normal, well-heeled GOOD folks must be hiding something, even though NOTHING about any of the Ramseys indicates that they are Satanists or child molesters or involved in porn. WHY? Is that that much envy towards people with money that we have to malign them and create some nefarious, horrifying pedophile ring that just "has" to be in operation . . . because Patsy was a beauty queen and JonBenet loved to play dress up?
Sad. The perps have gotten away with murder. Some day, the truth will come out. But meanwhile, it scares the hell outta me that if I were the victim of a tragedy, that a jury of my peers would be made up of folks who would rather look at sensational BS than the facts of the case.
I linked the one truly objective look that anyone has taken on this case -- done by folks in Britain. They uncovered a likely perp. No one even bothered to watch that series, yet you will go back and quote as fact testimony and accusations that were proven inaccurate or unreliable.
It is just best Patsy is dead and in heaven with JonBenet. What a helluva way to live your life . . . having fought ovarian cancer, gone into remission, treasured the days you had raising your children (and voicing how your worst fear is that you won't be there to raise them), have your little girl murdered, and then be accused of the murder. Oh. My. God.
And herein should be the clue that would surely tell anyone that a family member would not be so STUPID as to ask for the exact amount of a bonus check!
Someone outside the family, but who had access to this information, discovered the amount of that check. This is another reason that it points to someone young and with a not-so-high IQ.
On one hand, the perp was thinking - let's ask for the quick money - we know that he just deposited that check so he is bound to have it as "cash on hand" and can easily obtain it.
On the other hand, the perp was too dumb to realize that this would signal that someone with ties to the family (or John's business) would know about the amount of that check.
That has been something I have ruminated about for years.
Have you ever known anyone this wealthy? I have. And trust me, folks who are worth millions don't go around discussing their finances, even with close friends.
However, there are people all along the way who would have be aware of the amount of that check. Just think about it.
People in the accounting department. People at the bank. Was there a stub to that check? Most certainly. Was it sitting out on a table in the home at some point -- where a workman or housekeeper could have seen it? And then there are deposit slips . . . could that have been out somewhere?
Could Burke have bragged to one of his little friends . . . I know Santa is going to be good to me this year - My Daddy got a check for $118K. Could a housekeeper have told her family at the dinner table - "those people have more money than God. I saw John's bonus - JUST HIS BONUS!!! - and it was more than most people make in a year! $118K!" and then one of the family members told a friend - those folks have money just sitting around . . . Or substitute bank teller for housekeeper . . .the person who saw or heard about the amount of that check could have been blabbing without any thought of someone actually wanting to RIP THE MONEY OFF THE RAMSEYS!
This really IS how life unfolds.
So this whole thing of trying to pin that letter on the Ramseys b/c it had the exact amount of a check on it - I find it ridiculous. They would have put the ransom into the millions b/c who would think someone would go to the trouble of kidnapping a wealthy person's child for a mere $100K? Heck no. I would hate to think that someone would kidnap me and find my value to only be $100K!!! That is one reason it sounds to me that the perps (and I do believe there was more than one) were either YOUNG, from another country, or both. And they certainly are not mega brains or they would have not said stupid things in that note.
And think about this: JOHN IS NOT A SOUTHERNER. Nor does he have a Southern accent. So who assumed he was Southern? No one in Boulder did. He had just recently won an award for Businessman of the Year. His bio was published and well known.
However, someone who knew PATSY could make the assumption that they were BOTH Southerners. WHen I say "knew" . . . I mean - had seen her around the house . . . at the market . . . at a beauty pageant . . . in church . . . whatever. She was obviously Southern.
Whoever wrote that note had a disdain for Southerners and couldn't resist putting a snide comment about John's "southernness" into the note.
Having lived in the Midwest and spent time in Boulder, I can assure you, my Southern accent was seen as "hillbilly" -- not aristocratic Southerner -- by the majority of folks. I had people ask me on many occasions why I didn't hire a speech coach to "get rid of that Southern accent." Now that is my personal experience and when it happens over and over . . . you come to realize that in most of the rest of the country, people have never even SPENT TIME in the South and they cannot distinguish between an uneducated "hillbilly" country accent and an aristocratic old-money upperclass educated Southern accent.
The small things tell us a lot about the perps. Why people are trying to twist it around and make it about the Ramseys rather than the perps is backwards. People just want to believe that normal, well-heeled GOOD folks must be hiding something, even though NOTHING about any of the Ramseys indicates that they are Satanists or child molesters or involved in porn. WHY? Is that that much envy towards people with money that we have to malign them and create some nefarious, horrifying pedophile ring that just "has" to be in operation . . . because Patsy was a beauty queen and JonBenet loved to play dress up?
Sad. The perps have gotten away with murder. Some day, the truth will come out. But meanwhile, it scares the hell outta me that if I were the victim of a tragedy, that a jury of my peers would be made up of folks who would rather look at sensational BS than the facts of the case.
I linked the one truly objective look that anyone has taken on this case -- done by folks in Britain. They uncovered a likely perp. No one even bothered to watch that series, yet you will go back and quote as fact testimony and accusations that were proven inaccurate or unreliable.
It is just best Patsy is dead and in heaven with JonBenet. What a helluva way to live your life . . . having fought ovarian cancer, gone into remission, treasured the days you had raising your children (and voicing how your worst fear is that you won't be there to raise them), have your little girl murdered, and then be accused of the murder. Oh. My. God.
If the preps had time to write the longest Ramson letter ever written in history on the Ramsey`s own paper and pen, they had time to go through any documents and papers in the Ramsey`s house. Check stubs lying around? The bonus check(118,117.50 was the actual amount.Actually John had his friend pick up the ramson money at the bank at 700am.
Most people who have studied the case for years, as I have; believe that they have some complicity in their daughter's death.
DNA isn't everything.
I think they're talking about touch DNA, which is very iffy at best from what I've read. It could have been transferred to her environment/clothing in many different ways--all innocuously.
So why didn't they call to arrange a place or a way for him to drop it off in that attache case?
Because they originally intended to do a kidnap, things went wrong, one of the people involved killed JB, so then it was just a matter of getting the hell outta the house.
Of course there was no call; the kidnappers not only didn't have JB in their possession, she was dead in the basement.
At that point, all the perps were hoping is that they got out without anyone seeing anything.
Because they originally intended to do a kidnap, things went wrong, one of the people involved killed JB, so then it was just a matter of getting the hell outta the house.
Of course there was no call; the kidnappers not only didn't have JB in their possession, she was dead in the basement.
At that point, all the perps were hoping is that they got out without anyone seeing anything.
If that's the case they were pretty stupid. Instead of writing a ransom note before they ever got there, one of them sits down and takes his/her time writing a long drawn out note, never worrying about being caught in the act. Meanwhile the other one is having his wicked way with her, causing her to scream and resulting in her death. Didn't the note writer wonder what the other person was doing?
Neither one seems worried about getting caught. If they had been worried, they would have dropped the pre-written ransom note somewhere--fast--and grabbed JonBenet and gotten out of there.
So we have at least two people involved, neither of whom gave a hang about getting caught.
And herein should be the clue that would surely tell anyone that a family member would not be so STUPID as to ask for the exact amount of a bonus check!
Someone outside the family, but who had access to this information, discovered the amount of that check. This is another reason that it points to someone young and with a not-so-high IQ.
On one hand, the perp was thinking - let's ask for the quick money - we know that he just deposited that check so he is bound to have it as "cash on hand" and can easily obtain it.
On the other hand, the perp was too dumb to realize that this would signal that someone with ties to the family (or John's business) would know about the amount of that check.
That has been something I have ruminated about for years.
Have you ever known anyone this wealthy? I have. And trust me, folks who are worth millions don't go around discussing their finances, even with close friends.
However, there are people all along the way who would have be aware of the amount of that check. Just think about it.
People in the accounting department. People at the bank. Was there a stub to that check? Most certainly. Was it sitting out on a table in the home at some point -- where a workman or housekeeper could have seen it? And then there are deposit slips . . . could that have been out somewhere?
Could Burke have bragged to one of his little friends . . . I know Santa is going to be good to me this year - My Daddy got a check for $118K. Could a housekeeper have told her family at the dinner table - "those people have more money than God. I saw John's bonus - JUST HIS BONUS!!! - and it was more than most people make in a year! $118K!" and then one of the family members told a friend - those folks have money just sitting around . . . Or substitute bank teller for housekeeper . . .the person who saw or heard about the amount of that check could have been blabbing without any thought of someone actually wanting to RIP THE MONEY OFF THE RAMSEYS!
This really IS how life unfolds.
So this whole thing of trying to pin that letter on the Ramseys b/c it had the exact amount of a check on it - I find it ridiculous. They would have put the ransom into the millions b/c who would think someone would go to the trouble of kidnapping a wealthy person's child for a mere $100K? Heck no. I would hate to think that someone would kidnap me and find my value to only be $100K!!! That is one reason it sounds to me that the perps (and I do believe there was more than one) were either YOUNG, from another country, or both. And they certainly are not mega brains or they would have not said stupid things in that note.
And think about this: JOHN IS NOT A SOUTHERNER. Nor does he have a Southern accent. So who assumed he was Southern? No one in Boulder did. He had just recently won an award for Businessman of the Year. His bio was published and well known.
However, someone who knew PATSY could make the assumption that they were BOTH Southerners. WHen I say "knew" . . . I mean - had seen her around the house . . . at the market . . . at a beauty pageant . . . in church . . . whatever. She was obviously Southern.
Whoever wrote that note had a disdain for Southerners and couldn't resist putting a snide comment about John's "southernness" into the note.
Having lived in the Midwest and spent time in Boulder, I can assure you, my Southern accent was seen as "hillbilly" -- not aristocratic Southerner -- by the majority of folks. I had people ask me on many occasions why I didn't hire a speech coach to "get rid of that Southern accent." Now that is my personal experience and when it happens over and over . . . you come to realize that in most of the rest of the country, people have never even SPENT TIME in the South and they cannot distinguish between an uneducated "hillbilly" country accent and an aristocratic old-money upperclass educated Southern accent.
The small things tell us a lot about the perps. Why people are trying to twist it around and make it about the Ramseys rather than the perps is backwards. People just want to believe that normal, well-heeled GOOD folks must be hiding something, even though NOTHING about any of the Ramseys indicates that they are Satanists or child molesters or involved in porn. WHY? Is that that much envy towards people with money that we have to malign them and create some nefarious, horrifying pedophile ring that just "has" to be in operation . . . because Patsy was a beauty queen and JonBenet loved to play dress up?
Sad. The perps have gotten away with murder. Some day, the truth will come out. But meanwhile, it scares the hell outta me that if I were the victim of a tragedy, that a jury of my peers would be made up of folks who would rather look at sensational BS than the facts of the case.
I linked the one truly objective look that anyone has taken on this case -- done by folks in Britain. They uncovered a likely perp. No one even bothered to watch that series, yet you will go back and quote as fact testimony and accusations that were proven inaccurate or unreliable.
It is just best Patsy is dead and in heaven with JonBenet. What a helluva way to live your life . . . having fought ovarian cancer, gone into remission, treasured the days you had raising your children (and voicing how your worst fear is that you won't be there to raise them), have your little girl murdered, and then be accused of the murder. Oh. My. God.
A lot of things in the note point to her being dead. I've already pointed out nonsensical aspects of the note. Patsy was known for showing off their wealth. I doubt people didn't know the Ramseys were well to do. Furthermore, if it was a stranger (vs someone they they knew or Patsy) how could they so closely mirror Patsy's handwriting? For strangers out mostly for money, why not take the body with them? You could always ransom the remains. The note sounds like it was written by someone who knew them. If it was someone who knew them, who the Ramseys would cover for, why imitate Patsy's hand writing?
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