SF/Bay Area Crime Thread (San Francisco, Oakland: university, title, station)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

No, they identify as conscious of racial injustice, not the word "woke" the way conservatives insinuate.

I like what Rebecca Solnit said about how the meaning changed from being loose slang into almost a slur by the right.
“woke” became a marker of the not-OK Boomer, a bilious word whose meaning was more in who said it than in what it meant or mocked. In other words, Woke died. Cool young people were not sad that Woke was dead, because he was no longer their word, and mean old people were not sad because they did not know he was dead. The end.

This word now belongs to asshats like Tucker Carlsen and Donsld Trump Jr.

No, they literally identify as "woke" as that literally what was asked multiple times.

To the extent that you understand the term, do you consider yourself to be "woke"?
Is being "woke" a good thing, a bad thing, or neither?
Is "wokeness" helping the country evolve and develop for the better or is it stoking differences and causing social and political unrest?

Don't forget Obama and Bill Maher!

[Woodshampoo]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

one poll in which 30% of people said they were 'woke', ok fair enough. But I have never heard the word used in conversation anywhere and in the context in which it's been used here l consider it to be a pejorative term used by conservatives to smut up people who they have decided are liberal.

Doesn’t matter whether or not “woke” is self ascribed, it is still a worldview that permeates throughout our society. I personally know many liberals and I wouldn’t define them as woke. Woke is a fringe group that happens to have a big megaphone and if you’re caught on the wrong end, you’re canceled.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by sav858

No, they literally identify as "woke" as that literally what was asked multiple times.

To the extent that you understand the term, do you consider yourself to be "woke"?
Is being "woke" a good thing, a bad thing, or neither?
Is "wokeness" helping the country evolve and develop for the better or is it stoking differences and causing social and political unrest?

Don't forget Obama and Bill Maher!

Not anymore, nobody but y'all says that anymore.

Just like how right wing extremists have shat all over words like 'patriot' and 'family values', everything they touch goes bad.

[18Montclair]

And it's funny how we are supposedly stoking division yet we're not the ones screaming 'civil war' every 30 seconds.

[Woodshampoo]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

No, they identify as conscious of racial injustice, not the word "woke" the way conservatives insinuate.

I like what Rebecca Solnit said about how the meaning changed from being loose slang into almost a slur by the right.
“woke” became a marker of the not-OK Boomer, a bilious word whose meaning was more in who said it than in what it meant or mocked. In other words, Woke died. Cool young people were not sad that Woke was dead, because he was no longer their word, and mean old people were not sad because they did not know he was dead. The end.

This word now belongs to asshats like Tucker Carlsen and Donsld Trump Jr.

I think you need to read the article again. They use the nomenclature “woke.”

I’m not following the quote you posted at all. Sounds incoherent.

Whether or not the term “woke” now belongs to Trump or Tucker in its use for describing the “woke,” those who are “woke” earned it.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Not anymore, nobody but y'all says that anymore.

Just like how right wing extremists have shat all over words like 'patriot' and 'family values', everything they touch goes bad.

Maher has spoken several times about it this year. Obama gave an interview chastising "cancel cutlure" this year as well. More and more on the left are speaking out again "wokeness" including James Carville, CNN, etc...

It's obvious some of "y'all" don't like how the term is used as a pejorative against the left now but quit trying to pretend it's just the right speaking out against it and using the term.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

And it's funny how we are supposedly stoking division yet we're not the ones screaming 'civil war' every 30 seconds.

Different side of the same coin. Both sides do it.

[Woodshampoo]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Not anymore, nobody but y'all says that anymore.

Just like how right wing extremists have shat all over words like 'patriot' and 'family values', everything they touch goes bad.

How did right wing extremists shat all over “patriot” and “family values?” Who are right wing extremists?

[Igor Blevin]

The word "woke" was coined by the Left and probably by the Academic Left. Wictionary attibutes it's coinage to African American lexicon. It is hardly something conservatives coined. They simply use it to demonstrate Leftist hypocrisy, power grab, overreach and abuse.


Definitions.


Merriam-Webster

Definition of woke (Entry 1 of 2)

chiefly US slang

: aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)
But we will only succeed if we reject the growing pressure to retreat into cynicism and hopelessness. … We have a moral obligation to "stay woke," take a stand and be active; challenging injustices and racism in our communities and fighting hatred and discrimination wherever it rises.
— Barbara Lee

… argued that … Brad Pitt is not only woke, but the wokest man in Hollywood … because he uses his status—and his production company Plan B—to create space for artists of color, with such films as 12 Years a Slave, Selma, and the upcoming film Moonlight.
— Giselle Defares


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke




Dictionary.com


Woke

verb

a simple past tense of wake1.

adjective, Slang.(often used in the phrase stay woke)

having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those related to civil and human rights:

In light of incidents of police brutality, it’s important to stay woke.
He took one African American history class and now he thinks he’s woke.
We're trying to make woke choices in life.

aware of the facts, true situation, etc. (sometimes used facetiously):
The moon landing was staged. Stay woke!

A tomato is a fruit and not a vegetable. Stay woke.
awake:
I had to drink lots of coffee this morning to stay woke.


https://www.dictionary.com/browse/woke




Wiktionary


Woke

Etymology 1[edit]

Shortened from woken or woke(n) up.

Adjective[edit]
woke (not generally comparable, comparative more woke or woker, superlative most woke or wokest)

(dialect, African-American Vernacular or slang) Awake: conscious and not asleep.

Synonyms: see Thesaurus:awake


(chiefly African-American Vernacular, slang) Alert, aware of what is going on, or well-informed, especially in racial and other social justice issues. quotations ▼

Synonyms: see Thesaurus:vigilant


Coordinate terms: (chiefly derogatory) politically correct, (British) right-on
(slang, often derogatory) Holding left-wing views or attitudes, principally with regards to certain social justice issues or to an excessive degree. quotations ▼


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/woke

[Tulemutt]

And I read somewhere some time back, that the origin of the term was really from the days of slavery, when slaves were known to stay up at night to teach themselves to read by candlelight.

Whatever.

Who cares about the origin? It’s used as a taunting pejorative. Which helps what?

Homo sapiens. Can’t live with ‘em. Can’t live without ‘em.