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Old 02-23-2016, 06:18 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Well, throwing out one of the books would be a start....
Then we'd have only 65 books to go. . .
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Old 02-23-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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I thank God that I am not concerned with prophecy,
but the guidance of the Holy Spirit Jesus provides born again believers.
In my life and I am given what I need to know, when I need to know it .
I trust God.
Jesus said that there will be a judgment for every single thing we say, even idle conversation.
If idle conversation is held that seriously ,how much more those things men dare to teach.
More so those things He did not instruct one to teach.
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Old 02-23-2016, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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If idle conversation is held that seriously ,how much more those things men dare to teach.
More so those things He did not instruct one to teach.
Simply put, it works like this:

We have (according to you, because god gave it to us) a mind that can think and use logic and reason and examine evidence.

In every area of life save one, we go where the evidence leads us.

Religion is that exception and god is the product of that special pleading that says in this area alone we must mindlessly teach what we are told to teach or be tortured forever.

Belief in anything is simply the product of due consideration of probabilities based on evidence and reason. Belief in god is no exception.

The end.
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Old 02-23-2016, 06:45 AM
 
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Simply put, it works like this:

We have (according to you, because god gave it to us) a mind that can think and use logic and reason and examine evidence.

In every area of life save one, we go where the evidence leads us.

Religion is that exception and god is the product of that special pleading that says in this area alone we must mindlessly teach what we are told to teach or be tortured forever.

Belief in anything is simply the product of due consideration of probabilities based on evidence and reason. Belief in god is no exception.

The end.
Funny...In Judasim G-d tells one to study Torah, not midlessly believe...
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Old 02-23-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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Funny...In Judasim G-d tells one to study Torah, not midlessly believe...
Maybe that's why Judaism is not as sucessful as Christianity in terms of number of adherents.
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Old 02-23-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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Funny...In Judasim G-d tells one to study Torah, not midlessly believe...
That is less mindless but not entirely mindful either. The Torah is one source of information, just as biased as any other theistic source. And while one is adjured to study the Torah, I rather suspect that the conclusions one is allowed to draw from it are rather circumscribed from the point of view of Judaism.
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Old 02-23-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Emmaus, PA
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British Israelism?....
and German Israelism, and Spanish Israelism, and Italian Israelism, and Belgian Israelism, and American Israelism, and Canadian Israelism, and Mexican Israelism, and Guatemalan Israelism, and on and on.
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Old 02-23-2016, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I know Christianity is having trouble staying relevant. One thing that would help is getting rid of the book of Revelations. Nothing wrong with saying, "Hey, I know we originally included this book after a lot of debate over whether it belonged in the Bible, but we've rethought this issue and decided that the book is bogus. No way is any of the stuff in that book going to happen. There aren't going to be 144,000 Christian males saved in the end. That would be ridiculous."
Go study the fall feasts, everything that is said and done by the priests. Revelation begins on Tishri 1, and it shows Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur happening with 3 different views in the seals, in the trumpets and in the bowls. Then it details Sukkot and Shemini Atzereth.


Revelation is written to a person who has completed his spring walk and is now coming up to his second season in the fall.


Just because it doesn't make sense to people who don't know Jewish culture, heritage and tradition a Jew would be raised in, doesn't mean nobody can read it.


He was a prisoner on Patmos and everything he did was guarded and he wanted to send a letter that only Jews could read.
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Old 02-23-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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Same here. I suspect there were some special mushrooms on the island of Patmos.
The first time I read it I thought he was on peyote. But since wild peyote doesn't grow on Patmos.... I think mushrooms are more likely.
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Old 02-23-2016, 12:22 PM
 
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I know Christianity is having trouble staying relevant. One thing that would help is getting rid of the book of Revelations. Nothing wrong with saying, "Hey, I know we originally included this book after a lot of debate over whether it belonged in the Bible, but we've rethought this issue and decided that the book is bogus. No way is any of the stuff in that book going to happen. There aren't going to be 144,000 Christian males saved in the end. That would be ridiculous."
Yes. Definitely throw our "Revelations". I have never heard of the book and it is not inspired.
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