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Simply put, Revelation is a 1st Century man's attempt to describe the rise of a dictator and the effects of WWIII, which nearly causes the annihilation of the human race.
The book of Revelation clearly states that it is written to 1st century Christians and is intended to be applied to their current situation. Poor scholarship, especially among preachers vastly undereducated about the Bible , led to it being regarded as something way off in the future .
I know Christianity is having trouble staying relevant. One thing that would help is getting rid of the book of Revelations. Nothing wrong with saying, "Hey, I know we originally included this book after a lot of debate over whether it belonged in the Bible, but we've rethought this issue and decided that the book is bogus. No way is any of the stuff in that book going to happen. There aren't going to be 144,000 Christian males saved in the end. That would be ridiculous."
I say ditch the entire book. It's man made and mostly irrelevant to the 21st century.
I say ditch the entire book. It's man made and mostly irrelevant to the 21st century.
You're Not alone in your thinking ^ above ^ and if the book of Revelation goes, then so does the rest of the Bible.
Before John wrote his gospel account according to John, John wrote Revelation.
Revelation basically means a revealing. In the case to the Book of Revelation it is a revealing of the future happy ending for mankind. Revelation was Not written for the first century because it was written at the very end of the first century
However, its setting is for our day of time frame - Rev. 1:10
Although written in very-vivid word pictures, corresponding cross-reference verses and passages found in other Bible books ( especially the book of Daniel ) helps us discern that Jesus is the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of good will. Jesus will fulfill God's promise to father Abraham - Genesis 12:3; 22:18 - that ' all ' nations of earth will be blessed. Blessed with having the benefits of healing or curing as mentioned at Revelation 22:2
I know Christianity is having trouble staying relevant. One thing that would help is getting rid of the book of Revelations. Nothing wrong with saying, "Hey, I know we originally included this book after a lot of debate over whether it belonged in the Bible, but we've rethought this issue and decided that the book is bogus. No way is any of the stuff in that book going to happen. There aren't going to be 144,000 Christian males saved in the end. That would be ridiculous."
First of all, please keep in mind that the book of Revelation is written in very-vivid word pictures.
Please notice Galatians 3:28-29 and Colossians 3:11
Because it mentions: neither male nor female. Those called to heaven both male and female - Rev. 20:6; 5:9-10; 2:10 - who have a first or earlier resurrection, will be resurrected in a ' spirit body ' ( not fleshly - 1st Cor. 15:50 )
Please notice who is ' saved in the end ' according to Matthew 25:31-33,37 ( Matthew 24:13-14 )
We are nearing the soon coming ' time of separation ' on earth. The ' saved sheep' ( humble people ) are alive on earth, they can continue to live on earth right into the start of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over earth, when Jesus, as Prince of Peace, usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.
All who died before Jesus died, are Not ' called to heaven ' but like King David - Acts 2:34 - and John the Baptist - Matthew 11:11 - they will have a perfectly healthy physical resurrection back to life on earth.
Remember Jesus did Not promise heaven at Matthew 5:5 but promised earth - Psalm 37:11,29
All those of Hebrews chapter 11 did Not see the promise - Hebrews 11:13,39 - because they too will be brought back to life on earth. The majority of mankind will live here on earth, and will have the original opportunity that was offered to Adam before his downfall. Adam could live forever on earth as long as he kept God's Law.
Jesus resurrected No one to heaven. Everyone Jesus resurrected was brought back to life on earth.
Jesus was giving us a small preview, or coming attraction, of what Jesus will be doing on a grand global scale during his millennium-long day of governing over earth. Jesus will fulfill God's promise to father Abraham regarding: earth.
ALL families of earth and ALL nations of earth will be blessed. Blessed with good health because, through Christ, there will be the healing of earth's nations - Genesis 12:2; 22:18; Revelation 22:2; Isaiah 33:24 and Isaiah chapter 35
The book of Revelation clearly states that it is written to 1st century Christians and is intended to be applied to their current situation. Poor scholarship, especially among preachers vastly undereducated about the Bible , led to it being regarded as something way off in the future .
And so were those apocalyptic promises found in the Gospels and scattered about in the epistles, As Jesus NEVER came back, well, those goal posts had to keep on moving forward in perpetuity.
You're Not alone in your thinking ^ above ^ and if the book of Revelation goes, then so does the rest of the Bible.
Before John wrote his gospel account according to John, John wrote Revelation.
Revelation basically means a revealing. In the case to the Book of Revelation it is a revealing of the future happy ending for mankind. Revelation was Not written for the first century because it was written at the very end of the first century
However, its setting is for our day of time frame - Rev. 1:10
Although written in very-vivid word pictures, corresponding cross-reference verses and passages found in other Bible books ( especially the book of Daniel ) helps us discern that Jesus is the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of good will. Jesus will fulfill God's promise to father Abraham - Genesis 12:3; 22:18 - that ' all ' nations of earth will be blessed. Blessed with having the benefits of healing or curing as mentioned at Revelation 22:2
Rev 1:1
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John
Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
The text clearly says that those that read and hear the words then, at the time of its writing, would be blessed, because the time of its fulfillment was near,close,nigh,at hand.
Only poor and unscholarly interpretation of the last couple of centuries have altered the original meaning and changed "shortly come to pass" and "at hand" to mean 2000 yrs after its supposed writing. The fact of poor scholarship doesn't keep the less educated believers from accepting this though, even though just a cursory glance at the text at both the intro and epilogue of the book explicitly shows it being addressed to those who first received it.
Last edited by wallflash; 02-21-2016 at 06:13 PM..
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