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Nice try. I say it is crap as a reliable record of what Jesus did and it is crap in a practical way. That there is a smidgeon of misplaced mercy to be detected if you look hard enough does not make it other than crap. <snipped>
If all you take away from it is a "smidgen of misplaced mercy", perhaps it is because you are jaded by preconceived notions. That's understandable. The fact that others of us see the main emphasis of the narrative to be mercy, forgiveness, love, kindness, caring, and a correction of notions of the divine which are the antithesis of those qualities, might give you pause to reconsider. Or not. Different strokes for different folks. But I do think your characterization of something as mainly crap, that others find to be in tune with the higher ideals of morality that you seem to share, at least to some degree, is ... confusing.
If all you take away from it is a "smidgen of misplaced mercy", perhaps it is because you are jaded by preconceived notions. That's understandable. The fact that others of us see the main emphasis of the narrative to be mercy, forgiveness, love, kindness, caring, and a correction of notions of the divine which are the antithesis of those qualities, might give you pause to reconsider. Or not. Different strokes for different folks. But I do think your characterization of something as mainly crap, that others find to be in tune with the higher ideals of morality that you seem to share, at least to some degree, is ... confusing.
If the smidgeon of misplaced mercy is all you see, that is understandable. It is all you are taught to look for.
First off I am amazed. I don't normally visit this specific forum. The question interested me though. I have a few questions. After reading the posts within this thread I was left with a few questions of my own.
1. Why, if you don't believe in a God would you spend time in this forum?
2. What proof is there that a God does not exist?
3. If there is a God, What is wrong with a God asking for us to live a certain way?
4. Some people mentioned that they were OK with some aspects of a God but didn't like other aspects. So is it OK to believe in a God as long as that God is not condeming me. Is that the idea I am reading?
5. Is it possible that the Bible was not translated correctly? People seem to say that it contradicts itself. So that we are on the same page, the Bible was put together from lots of works. Kind of a hodge podge of letters and books placed together to create what is known as the Bible.
First off I am amazed. I don't normally visit this specific forum. The question interested me though. I have a few questions. After reading the posts within this thread I was left with a few questions of my own.
1. Why, if you don't believe in a God would you spend time in this forum?
2. What proof is there that a God does not exist?
3. If there is a God, What is wrong with a God asking for us to live a certain way?
4. Some people mentioned that they were OK with some aspects of a God but didn't like other aspects. So is it OK to believe in a God as long as that God is not condeming me. Is that the idea I am reading?
5. Is it possible that the Bible was not translated correctly? People seem to say that it contradicts itself. So that we are on the same page, the Bible was put together from lots of works. Kind of a hodge podge of letters and books placed together to create what is known as the Bible.
One cannot prove a negative, I cannot prove that all the gods and goddesses that ever were do not all exist either.What proof that a God does is exist is a more appropiate question, one that I have not really asked believers to answer either.
Questions 3-5 are meaningless if you do not believe in any gods and for the first one perhaps religion and how it affects people's world view is of interest as most of the threads are not about god but about religions.
First off I am amazed. I don't normally visit this specific forum. The question interested me though. I have a few questions. After reading the posts within this thread I was left with a few questions of my own.
1. Why, if you don't believe in a God would you spend time in this forum?
2. What proof is there that a God does not exist?
3. If there is a God, What is wrong with a God asking for us to live a certain way?
4. Some people mentioned that they were OK with some aspects of a God but didn't like other aspects. So is it OK to believe in a God as long as that God is not condeming me. Is that the idea I am reading?
5. Is it possible that the Bible was not translated correctly? People seem to say that it contradicts itself. So that we are on the same page, the Bible was put together from lots of works. Kind of a hodge podge of letters and books placed together to create what is known as the Bible.
Though the poll doesn't specify, the op says the question pertains to the Abrahamic God (and since I know the op is Christian, I assume he was asking from that point of view), so my response to you is on that basis alone. The description of the Abrahamic God as put forth in ALL of the books compiled into the bible is SELF-contradictory; they do not add up to a cohesive whole and taken ALL together as an infallible description of God, it is nonsensical at best.
Though the poll doesn't specify, the op says the question pertains to the Abrahamic God (and since I know the op is Christian, I assume he was asking from that point of view), so my response to you is on that basis alone. The description of the Abrahamic God as put forth in ALL of the books compiled into the bible is SELF-contradictory; they do not add up to a cohesive whole and taken ALL together as an infallible description of God, it is nonsensical at best.
When it comes to the God of Abraham it seems that many people on here reject him, but it seems to be for different reasons. Some honestly do not believe that a god exists and that there is no reason to believe in one, but then you have another set of people who see God as being evil, contradictory or whatever other adjectives you can think of. So my question is, if you are not a believer, then where do you fit in? Do you reject God or do you just not believe he exist?
No choice for "I believe in the God of the New Testament?"
No choice for "I believe in the God of the New Testament?"
Nope.
The OP is a "his way or the highway" kind of a guy. Which skews how the poll was written... and that skews the results.
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That's what I was shooting for.
