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View Poll Results: What are your feelings on God?
I reject him 4 5.13%
I do not believe he exists 52 66.67%
I believe in him and believe he is the one and only true God 22 28.21%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-09-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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I told you that I couldn't answer your poll because of the wording of it. I don't reject Abraham's God (if Abraham actually existed), because God is God and I don't reject God. I do, however, reject some of the descriptions of Abraham's God, because I do not believe them to be true.
So if you don't reject him, and you believe he exist, then you believe in him, do you not? I'm not asking you to define who he is, I'm just asking if you believe in him or not. It's not as difficult as you are making it.
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Old 04-09-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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So if you don't reject him, and you believe he exist, then you believe in him, do you not? I'm not asking you to define who he is, I'm just asking if you believe in him or not. It's not as difficult as you are making it.
No, it's not "difficult", but it is nuanced.
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:51 PM
 
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According to atheist themselves, that is not the definition of their beliefs. I have been told by many atheists that they have a disbelief in God not necessarily a belief that there is no god, which fits in with one of my choices.

The purpose of this wasn't to create a broad spectrum of what people believe but it was to address if people specifically believe in the God of Abraham.
Ah. I see. It is Biblegod you were asking us about. Well, it doesn't matter because I disbelieve in both.

The only difference is I disbelieve in a creator of some kind (not necessarily Biblegod) because nobody knows. Whereas the Bible stories seem so unbelievable that I have to definitely reject the Bible -god claim as unbelievable.

The same result, but 'nuanced'.
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Old 04-09-2015, 09:39 PM
 
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The purpose of this wasn't to create a broad spectrum of what people believe but it was to address if people specifically believe in the God of Abraham.
If that was the question you wanted us to answer, then you should have asked that specific question.

In your question, you only mentioned 'God', not the 'God of Abraham'. In case you have forgotten, here is your question:

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So my question is, if you are not a believer, then where do you fit in? Do you reject God or do you just not believe he exist?
It looks like you wasted a bunch of peoples' time by asking the wrong question. I think you owe all of us an apology.
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Old 04-10-2015, 06:47 AM
 
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It looks like you wasted a bunch of peoples' time by asking the wrong question. I think you owe all of us an apology.
What God is being referenced in the first sentence of the post you just quoted?

I accept your apology for taking out part of what I said to make it seem like I didn't state clearly who I was talking about.
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Old 04-10-2015, 06:58 AM
 
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What God is being referenced in the first sentence of the post you just quoted?
The make-believe god of Abraham. What does that have to do with the questions you asked?


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I accept your apology for taking out part of what I said to make it seem like I didn't state clearly who I was talking about.
I gave a complete quote of your exact questions. Don't blame me if you did not ask the exact questions you wanted to ask.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:07 AM
 
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It's both. I do not believe there is a creator at all. The closest we have to anything resembling divinity is the natural laws/forces, and they are increasingly better understood by humanity. I also reject the entire ideology/belief system that people have created around the Christian god.
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Old 04-10-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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The make-believe god of Abraham. What does that have to do with the questions you asked?
You said I didn't mention God of Abraham when I clearly did. That was one of the first things I mentioned.


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I gave a complete quote of your exact questions. Don't blame me if you did not ask the exact questions you wanted to ask.
But there was sentences before the questions that explained where the question came from. It was clear who I was referring to in the questions if you read the whole post. You wouldn't have even known what the question was if you didn't read the whole thing.
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