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Old 08-19-2021, 08:48 AM
 
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Aw man, Im so sad. Just saw a post from long time poster and moderator NMNITA that said "eternal member". Anyone know what happened?
Last November I think. Sounded like COVID. I was sad when I saw that news.
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Old 08-19-2021, 09:43 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Aw man, Im so sad. Just saw a post from long time poster and moderator NMNITA that said "eternal member". Anyone know what happened?
I loved her. She'd been on CDF for the long haul. We are so fortunate to have had her share all that she remembered about her life right here on CDF. I especially love everything she shared about when she lived in California, and her food forum contributions. Spoiled brat was what she called her husband whenever she referenced him, I loved that.

I'm so sorry to hear she has passed away - she lived an interesting and long life.
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Way up high
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aw man, im so sad. Just saw a post from long time poster and moderator nmnita that said "eternal member". Anyone know what happened?

So horrible. We talked privately several times
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:34 AM
 
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So if you don't believe in the science of the vaccine then how can you believe in the science that saves you from dying from Covid??
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Old 08-20-2021, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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So if you don't believe in the science of the vaccine then how can you believe in the science that saves you from dying from Covid??
Well according to the “experts†I have about the same chance of recovery whether I get the vaccine or not should I get the virus ( which apparently I already have). So far…. It doesn’t make sense for me to get a vaccine that isn’t going to up my odds significantly more than my natural immunity. I am all for those who are in the high risk category to get the vaccine, and for now I will continue to social distance and mask up where mandated, but I am in no rush to get the jab at present. Not saying I will never get it, but for now… not happening.
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Old 08-20-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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The blood clotting issue the vaccine can have is said to be more of a risk to young women in their childbearing years, than Covid itself.
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Old 08-20-2021, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The blood clotting issue the vaccine can have is said to be more of a risk to young women in their childbearing years, than Covid itself.
Said by who? I have not heard that.
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Old 08-20-2021, 01:53 PM
 
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Said by who? I have not heard that.
Just Google Covid vaccine blood clot young women.
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Old 08-20-2021, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Just Google Covid vaccine blood clot young women.
OK, I did.

The first results were pages that debunked that as a myth.

I finally, after looking down the page a ways, found some older news articles that placed the risk at about 6 in 6.8 million, or .00009%.

Which is a much lower chance than the risk of blood clots from:

Smoking (I smoke)
Pregnancy
Sitting too long
Birth Control Pills

and a bunch of other things.

Wait...found a more updated article! It took the risk from 6 cases out of 6.8 million doses administered, to 28 cases out of 9 million doses administered. .00031% Six of those cases were men.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/co...ne-blood-clots

The risks from Covid have seemed greater to me. I take medications, eat food, and do many activities in life that have a non-zero risk of causing me illness, injury or death.

EDIT: Further reading says that there have been no reports of this from either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.
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Old 08-20-2021, 02:55 PM
 
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OK, I did.

The first results were pages that debunked that as a myth.

I finally, after looking down the page a ways, found some older news articles that placed the risk at about 6 in 6.8 million, or .00009%.

Which is a much lower chance than the risk of blood clots from:

Smoking (I smoke)
Pregnancy
Sitting too long
Birth Control Pills

and a bunch of other things.

Wait...found a more updated article! It took the risk from 6 cases out of 6.8 million doses administered, to 28 cases out of 9 million doses administered. .00031% Six of those cases were men.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/co...ne-blood-clots

The risks from Covid have seemed greater to me. I take medications, eat food, and do many activities in life that have a non-zero risk of causing me illness, injury or death.

EDIT: Further reading says that there have been no reports of this from either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.
Bear in mind the data you are reading is from a vaccine that was released not even a year ago.

The could be just the tip of the iceberg.

And we don't know how many deaths have occurred that have not been connected to the vaccine but may be still have been caused by it.

Unless someone drops dead within minutes of getting the vaccine and has absolutely no other history of health issues, then the death won't be considered vaccine related.

But if a person dies weeks or months later, and they do an autopsy, and see blood clots. The coroners are going to say this person died of blood clots and this was likely a preexisting undx condition. They won't link it directly to the vaccine. If they got the vaccine in the past week or month or two? They can't say it's more than "coincidental timing."

So the actual number of people who have actually died as a direct result of the vaccine. This statistic does not exist publically.

Sometimes you gotta use your critical thinking skills. Be Sherlock Holmes. Put the pieces of the puzzle together.

To me it's an investigation in progress. I'm just sitting back and watching what unfolds. But I'm not comfortable with letting them inject that into me yet. Maybe some day I will be. And Ive every right to make that choice. We all have the right to refuse if we are not comfortable. And to educate ourselves as much as possible.
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