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Jeeze. I'm done. I figure, as fast as you're digging, you'll soon be so deep I won't be able to hear you anyway. Have a nice day. I'm going on a wonderful desert ride, through a scenic canyon, visiting some beautiful small and historic Nevada towns. You have fun pretending to be a smart guy on the internet. Bye-bye.
Yep. Notice I wrote "I'm going...on...a ride," not "I'm currently on a ride."
Again, why are you concerned? Did you simply misread my comment, and wanted clarification? I'd understand that.
I never stated it was in the bill.. I CLEARLY said that it was in the OLD bill, and that I have no read the NEW version of the bill to see if it was there.
So that their safety can be assessed and assured. That's an essential role the FDA plays - and is especially important for products that are implanted inside the human body.
1) This registry makes it easier to study the long term effects of such devices. Perhaps a certain brand of chip somehow leads to a 500% increase in the likelihood of developing skin cancer. Such a product should then have it's FDA approval yanked and should be taken out of every person it was put in. Having this registry will make it much easier to conduct such studies and find major health issues of these types.
2) Makes recalls much more effective (more complete and much quicker). From time to time implantable medical devices are found to be defective and must be recalled. What if it's discovered that some particular brand of medical chip was made with a toxic, non-approved material (I image lots of these chips will be manufactured in China). This registry will result in the harmful chip being removed from more people and more quickly.
3) I'm sure there are other reasons I just can't think of right now.
I guess this is where we differ. If I had a pace maker, I dont think the government needs to know this. I expect the manufacturor to notify this in the event of a recall, but I see little reason to notify the government that I have one. If I choose to get an implant for the purpose of computer security, or to purchase products, again, its not the governments business. If I get an implant for banking purposes (previous link to Mondex.com for example), there is no reason for the government to know my banking habbits.
Again, where does it end? How much is enough?
"for your safety" is an excuse the government could use to monitor every activity in ones life. How many hamburgers you eat, yep, for your safety. How many cell phones, computers, tv's etc do you own? Yep, they need to know this for our own safety as well.
All I have to say is, just let em come near me or my children with a chip! I dare em!
Just a point of clarification ...
If one follows the link above, you get the "Silver and Gold Outlook", a blog on the future of gold and silver. Perhaps the person or persons responsible for this blog know something about gold and silver, but they don't know anything about this topic. That they would use "House and Senate health bills" with a date of 3/18/10 is proof. Long before March 18th, there was only one health care reform bill that meant anything at all.
From the blog entry:
Required RFID implanted chip
Sec. 2521, Pg. 1000 – The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. What does a National Medical Device Registry mean?
National Medical Device Registry from H.R. 3200 [Healthcare Bill], pages 1001-1008:
H.R. 3200? Really?? Here's the THOMAS summary of H.R. 3200:
H.R.3200 Title: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 Sponsor:Rep Dingell, John D. [MI-15] (introduced 7/14/2009) Cosponsors (9) Related Bills:S.1796 Latest Major Action: 10/14/2009 Placed on the Union Calendar, Calendar No. 168.
So, some blogger is whining about their misinterpretation of a provision in a health care reform bill that IS NOT THE ONE THAT BECAME LAW. Just in case anyone missed it (and yet feels knowledgeable enough to comment on it), the one and only health care reform bill signed into law by President Obama is H.R. 3590 (Public Law 111-148).
Sigh.
I don't know when, why, or how it happened, but it seems to me there far too many people in this country lacking basic skills in reading comprehension and critical thinking. And if this forum is any indication, most of them appear to reside to the right of center on the political spectrum.
There has been no safety concerns with microchip implants.. Do you have anything to dispute this or do you just buy the excuses provided?
Except this is not about microchip implants, which is readily obvious if you'd bother to figure out what you're talking about. Are there safety concerns with pacemakers, replacement heart valves, or implanted cerebral stimulators?
Since you don't buy the excuses provided, being the perspicacious individual you are, what is the REAL purpose of this registry?
Anything and anytime you implant something within your body it becomes a medical issue.
What medical issues have arrisen by implantation of a chip the size of rice? How about cavities? Also a medical issue? Should we notify the government of the number of cavities filled?
I guess this is where we differ. If I had a pace maker, I dont think the government needs to know this. I expect the manufacturor to notify this in the event of a recall, but I see little reason to notify the government that I have one. If I choose to get an implant for the purpose of computer security, or to purchase products, again, its not the governments business. If I get an implant for banking purposes (previous link to Mondex.com for example), there is no reason for the government to know my banking habbits.
Again, where does it end? How much is enough?
"for your safety" is an excuse the government could use to monitor every activity in ones life. How many hamburgers you eat, yep, for your safety. How many cell phones, computers, tv's etc do you own? Yep, they need to know this for our own safety as well.
Would you accept this as well?
Idiotic slippery slope argument. "If the FDA gets to know who has a pacemaker, how long before they can monitor my hamburger consumption!??!"
sorry, no time to respond, on my way to go for a ride on the fat boy
Cool. I have a Road King. Have fun.
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