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Old 03-16-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by Hot_Handz View Post
Medical devices with TRACKING...

Take your meds, will you please.

There are no freaking chips! The track medical devices by...wait for it...SERIAL NUMBERS.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Today devices...but tomorrow ? It's called "creep".

The goal of the HHS Heath IT organization is to reduce or eliminate paperwork associated with healthcare and have everything in electronic format available to anyone in medicine. RFID chips can accomplish that. Facial recognition (patient name, address, etc) can accomplish that too. Your driver license picture is used for that.

HealthIT.hhs.gov: Home
Here..from a "standards" meeting from the HHS "Health IT" organization:

Document #17 from this link on standards meeting..talking about "future" standards.
HealthIT - Banner Search Results
It’s so hard to actually write criteria for because there are new technologies that do facial recognition of the patient who is in the bed. So, do we want to use RFID, do we want to use bar code, do we want to use biometrics, do we want to use DNA, do we want to do facial recognition? The answer is they’re all fine and who knows what technology tomorrow will bring?
Good post (rep'd you).

This brings up the issue of the way regulations are intentionally vaguely written leaving room for subsequent adjustment to allow for new developments, applications and interpretation. It's a "living document" that will change with the ruling party's policies, either for good or bad, depending on one's view of the direction we're taking.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Take your meds, will you please.

There are no freaking chips! The track medical devices by...wait for it...SERIAL NUMBERS.
Given the option to have a chip implanted, I would do so. With my health history, it could prove very valuable.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: North America
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Given the option to have a chip implanted, I would do so. With my health history, it could prove very valuable.

Not me. Maybe implant something in pedophiles that if they go within 100 feet of a kid, their junk blows up.

I have a bunch of medical problems too. I pay the doctors enough they can pretty much figure it out.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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Take your meds, will you please.

There are no freaking chips! The track medical devices by...wait for it...SERIAL NUMBERS.
A Delicate Balance: FDA and the Reform of the Medical Device Approval Process



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Post-market Surveillance Activities



FDA recognizes the importance of post-market surveillance (PMS) and utilizes a multi-faceted approach to monitor the performance of medical devices after marketing clearance or approval to ensure their continued safety and effectiveness. FDA uses several PMS tools to accomplish effective monitoring of device performance. For example, the Agency requires medical device manufacturers to follow certain PMS requirements for marketed devices, including adverse event reporting for all devices, and tracking systems and post-market surveillance studies or post-approval studies for select devices. This approach provides for nationwide surveillance through adverse event reporting, complemented by targeted efforts, such as post-approval studies. However, medical devices present unique post-market challenges because of their diversity and rapid product evolution. Importantly, key infrastructure improvements, such as increased electronic adverse event reporting, the establishment of the Unique Device Identification (UDI) system, and the incorporation of UDI into health-related electronic records, will have a profound and positive impact of the nation’s ability to adequately monitor medical devices in the post-market period.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Wait a minute, we didn't have these devices with such "tracking" until... (fill in the blanks please).
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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I mean... they implant dogs with chips in the event they are lost or get stolen....

WHAT is SO far fetched about the idea of them using the same technology for event reporting on medical devices??? lol

Oh no... our government would never do such a thing....they would NEVER take advantage of such technology..

Even if it were to SAVE LIVES.....
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:28 AM
 
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Wait a minute, we didn't have these devices with such "tracking" until... (fill in the blanks please).
Are you going to make an argument??? Yes or no....?
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Are you going to make an argument??? Yes or no....?
Right after you. At this time, exploring your knowledge on the issue. You pointed at something, I want to see what you know about it and specifically its history.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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National medical device registry...

It isn't an implantable chip, guys, it's registering MEDICAL DEVICES implanted in patients (i.e., pacemakers, insulin pumps...)

Oh GAWD!!!
It was an idiotic allegation to make in the first place. From out of which cave and hibernation for centuries do people who make such claims crawl from? Thanks.
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