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Did she Kill someone? Did she rob a bank? Did she molest her child? Did she smuggle drugs across the boarder? NO, she was looking to provide for he child. She does not deserve to be sent to jail over something like this. I dont care if she swore an oath. Discharge her and take away her benefits, but to throw he in jail is overkill.
This country puts people in jail over the smallest things. We put people who dont pay parking tickets in cells next to murderers and sex offenders. How about once they catch all the murderers and sex offenders out there then they can start throwing people in prison who only have minor offenses. Wanna know the number one bankrolled industry in America? The prison system, I kid you not. Look it up.
Oh, and IDASpaceman, its going to take more than that to get a rise out of me or make me feel any sort of emotional responce...good try, but keep trying.
You have never been in the military and have no idea of what it is about.
It isn't just a job and it isn't about you.
Court martial punishment does not always include jail.
You don't know WHAT she did or didn't do. The fact that she's going to court martial tells me that there's more to this story than what is being reported.
Spend a minimum of four years in the military and then you MIGHT understand what serving your country is all about. Much of what we did on the job could get us in jail if we screwed up in one way or another.
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Originally Posted by fracturedman
Did she Kill someone? Did she rob a bank? Did she molest her child? Did she smuggle drugs across the boarder? NO, she was looking to provide for he child. She does not deserve to be sent to jail over something like this. I dont care if she swore an oath. Discharge her and take away her benefits, but to throw he in jail is overkill.
This country puts people in jail over the smallest things. We put people who dont pay parking tickets in cells next to murderers and sex offenders. How about once they catch all the murderers and sex offenders out there then they can start throwing people in prison who only have minor offenses. Wanna know the number one bankrolled industry in America? The prison system, I kid you not. Look it up.
Oh, and IDASpaceman, its going to take more than that to get a rise out of me or make me feel any sort of emotional responce...good try, but keep trying.
We have the most powerful military fighting forces in the world.
That is because our military men and women take their oath to defend and protect us against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to heart.
Their allegiance to the Uniform Code of Miltary Conduct is unequalled by any other nation on this planet.
Any soldier or sailor worth their salt knows the consequences of their actions or inactions.
This exception to the rule wants to cry foul to the same laws that thousands of others seem to have zero trouble obeying.
So what if her "plan" fell through?
Must not have been a very solid plan.
That means she isn't a squared away soldier, and her colleagues are better off without her.
I knew it was too good to be true: someone would come forward to defend her. She volunteered for the sevice, she knew she could be deployed, she got pregnant and now expects to get people like you on her side...
Oh and I am glad your boyfriend didn't join as well, I am sure you would have had trouble with his commentment.
Nita
lmao well sweety in your own little world, everyone can have the same opinions & think the same way as long as it agrees with what you believe is right & wrong but in the real world....we all have minds of our own.
why should i not be on her side? [MOD CUT]
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lmao well sweety in your own little world, everyone can have the same opinions & think the same way as long as it agrees with what you believe is right & wrong but in the real world....we all have minds of our own.
why should i not be on her side? [MOD CUT]
No, you shouldn't support her if you believe that human beings are autonomous and have the ability to choose to act responsibly.....or not.
This woman chose not to act responsibly. She chose to get pregnant, to stay pregnant with no relation with the sperm donor and worse, she chose to stay in the military taking the benefits of being a soldier without the ability or wherewithal to act like a soldier.
But you can believe that women aren't smart enough to make a viable deployment plan, that women aren't fit to serve in the military due to their active uterusi. Myself? As a woman I particularily find this girl to be demeaning to all the women who went before her. Who suffered yet persevered to make the military open to women. What she did was play the 'I'm just a little girl with a baby' card and that is not in the best interest of herself, her baby, the military and the future for women in the military.
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Court martial punishment does not always include jail.
You don't know WHAT she did or didn't do. The fact that she's going to court martial tells me that there's more to this story than what is being reported.
Spend a minimum of four years in the military and then you MIGHT understand what serving your country is all about. Much of what we did on the job could get us in jail if we screwed up in one way or another.
I completely agree with all you have said, and would add a bit:
1. Missing movement is a VERY serious thing.
2. My experience is the the military will go to great lengths to avoid going the court martial route. There has to be a lot that is not included in the story as reported.
3. Perhaps, to avoid future similar problems, the old policy of "you get pregnant, you get out" should be re-instituted.
I am a retired soldier. Female soldiers have a few options.
If they have children they must provide a course of action to care for those children in the case of national emergency or war. Failure to have a family plan is cause for separation or elimination from the service. It would appear Specialist Hutchinson missed a movement, that is did not report for deployment. That's serious business for any military member, in time of war, doubly so. Cause for court martial.
Since her unit is already deployed she is undoubtedly being sent there to undergo court martial. Courts Martial are initiated by the unit, so that makes sense, granted, waste of money but that's the way it is.
Each and every one of those "bodies" has an individual mission. If one body is missing then another body has to pick up the slack. It is a burden on other soldiers when a team member is absent.
Bottom line is, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Finially, A sane informed response with the facts of the matter Thank you!
Many of the responses are cause to worry for the character of America. Oh well...........
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Originally Posted by fracturedman
Did she Kill someone? Did she rob a bank? Did she molest her child? Did she smuggle drugs across the boarder? NO, she was looking to provide for he child. She does not deserve to be sent to jail over something like this. I dont care if she swore an oath. Discharge her and take away her benefits, but to throw he in jail is overkill.
This country puts people in jail over the smallest things. We put people who dont pay parking tickets in cells next to murderers and sex offenders. How about once they catch all the murderers and sex offenders out there then they can start throwing people in prison who only have minor offenses. Wanna know the number one bankrolled industry in America? The prison system, I kid you not. Look it up.
Oh, and IDASpaceman, its going to take more than that to get a rise out of me or make me feel any sort of emotional responce...good try, but keep trying.
What she did is no "Smallest thing", as you say. In the military every action you take like this affects someone else. In this point in time it puts lives at risk. Seriously. She f'd up big time on several occassions during the process. The military treats you as a responsible adult to do the correct thing, to do as told, and you get to get out with "good paper". Civilians come off with attitude and PC hugs because they just don't get it. And the mass media lives on it.
The Army now will separate mother and child to get bodies to deploy. IMO this is nothing short of an outrage!!!
"Army has mom, Alexis Hutchinson, arrested and 11-month old son put into county foster care system. Alexis has now been ordered to deploy to Afghanistan on Sunday, November 15, where she will be court martialed."
Courage to Resist - Army sends infant to protective services, mom to Afghanistan (http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/789/1 - broken link)
(one a personal note: the response's to the topic might just tell us all what kind of country we have become. )
You're told from day one in the military that your baby, husband, wife, etc was not issued to you in your seabag (Navy) etc. You either provide for proper planning of these situations or you face the consequences. People know the deal when they enlist in the military. Problem is that some don't take them seriously.
We have the most powerful military fighting forces in the world.
That is because our military men and women take their oath to defend and protect us against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to heart.
Their allegiance to the Uniform Code of Miltary Conduct is unequalled by any other nation on this planet.
Any soldier or sailor worth their salt knows the consequences of their actions or inactions.
This exception to the rule wants to cry foul to the same laws that thousands of others seem to have zero trouble obeying.
So what if her "plan" fell through?
Must not have been a very solid plan.
That means she isn't a squared away soldier, and her colleagues are better off without her.
Amen to all that.
I am very sorry that her child is now in foster care, but, as another poster noted, the Army is not a day-care center. She signed the contract and must abide by the terms of said contract like every other soldier.
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