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I wonder if this will encourage the western powers to speed up Georgian and Ukrainian membership in NATO and/or the EU (??)
Uh, I think thats the last thing that anyone wants at the moment. NATO members are bound to protect any member that is attacked. If Georgia HAD been admitted as a member of NATO, we very well could have been involved in a shooting match right now with the world's second biggest nuclear power. No thanks.
George Washington warned us about this sort of thing just before he left office. World War 1 reinforced the fact that we DO NOT need to entangle ourselves in the affairs of anyone else.
Uh, I think thats the last thing that anyone wants at the moment. NATO members are bound to protect any member that is attacked. If Georgia HAD been admitted as a member of NATO, we very well could have been involved in a shooting match right now with the world's second biggest nuclear power. No thanks.
George Washington warned us about this sort of thing just before he left office. World War 1 reinforced the fact that we DO NOT need to entangle ourselves in the affairs of anyone else.
Right. We should have just let Hitler KEEP France.
Uh, I think thats the last thing that anyone wants at the moment. NATO members are bound to protect any member that is attacked. If Georgia HAD been admitted as a member of NATO, we very well could have been involved in a shooting match right now with the world's second biggest nuclear power. No thanks.
George Washington warned us about this sort of thing just before he left office. World War 1 reinforced the fact that we DO NOT need to entangle ourselves in the affairs of anyone else.
Good point. Also, i don't think either the German or the French would ever allow Georgia/Ukraine to to join NATO. My take is that there is already too many former soviet republics in that organization which does not bold well with Russia. And if one of those republics were to go to war with Russia and drag the whole NATO into it - there would perhaps be a situation where you have the Germans or French refuse to be part of that conflict or have China join the conflict, which would certainly be nothing but world war III. As long as NATO keeps existing without China and/or Russia - the possibility of WWIII is one step away if the two countries get into conflict with NATO members
The US and a number of other countries have big oil interests in Russia. That consideration will outweigh anything else. there will be loud public condemnation of Russia's invasion and a great outpouring of sympathy for the Georgians, probably acompanied by a fund-raising campaign of some sort to provide relief for the civilians who've been displaced.
But the truth is that the diplomatic picture won't change. Russia will keep its new provinces and the maps will be redrawn and the politicians will count on the world's short attention span to gloss over this ugly little incident.
Oh, what's that?
Bush is condemning an unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation?
Good point. Also, i don't think either the German or the French would ever allow Georgia/Ukraine to to join NATO. My take is that there is already too many former soviet republics in that organization which does not bold well with Russia. And if one of those republics were to go to war with Russia and drag the whole NATO into it - there would perhaps be a situation where you have the Germans or French refuse to be part of that conflict or have China join the conflict, which would certainly be nothing but world war III. As long as NATO keeps existing without China and/or Russia - the possibility of WWIII is one step away if the two countries get into conflict with NATO members
Both Georgia and Ukraine are already going to be admitted to NATO.
Russia is going to keep Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
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Russia's president says that Russian peacekeepers will stay in Georgia's breakaway provinces. Moscow has peacekeepers deployed to both South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but Georgia says they back separatists there.
The Associated Press: AP Top News at 11:08 a.m. EDT (broken link)
The secretary general of the North Atlantic alliance said however that Ukraine and Georgia would eventually become NATO members.
Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said NATO leaders endorsed Ukraine and Georgia's accession to the Membership Action Plan, but that NATO would reconsider Georgia and Ukraine's bid to join MAP in December.
Too early to tell, the subsequent actions likely depend upon who wins the election here.
By time new Pres is sworn in this will be old news nothing much will come of it
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Predict the outcome of Russia-Georgia
