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Old 06-20-2022, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Well, no, it's not really the blood bank's loss.

It's a loss to a person who needs blood to survive.

There's a bigger picture here, and considering how much blood this man has donated over his life, it appears it was very important to him to realize he was saving lives.

Until he had to answer whether he was pregnant or not, on a form, and then it wasn't important at all to him.

What was more important to him, as you say, was being "whiney".

It's not really that simple.

We either draw a line somewhere or we don't.

If we don't, then anything the norms police do, no matter how stupid or Orwellian, will go unquestioned.

An inability or unwillingness to challenge that which is clearly idiotic is probably just as dangerous to a society as a depleted blood supply.

Hopefully he wasn't a CMV-negative O-negative donor.
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Old 06-20-2022, 04:41 AM
 
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I can't give blood anyway, but I would hope some would be there if I needed it.
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:01 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Pregnant with what?

Ideas?

Scottish highlander Embryo?

Sheep embryo?

Great comedy act or real business scenario. Boss hires his inept nephew as a programmer. The nephew, unfamiliar with how to program logic, requires a man to reveal if he is pregnant with child. Workers so fear the insulting the boss's nephew they let the question stand and suffer the blowback to the company's reputation.

Form should ask men the date of his last menses to confirm pregnancy.
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:06 AM
 
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It's amazing there is anyone attempting to justify this nonsense.
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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It's amazing there is anyone attempting to justify this nonsense.
I stopped being "amazed" by this months ago. Now it is just a matter of me opening C-D with the thought of "I wonder what the latest woke craziness is for today?"
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:23 AM
 
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I'm A-. They want my blood. But, everytime they learn that I lived in Germany during their specific timeline, they carry on about "Mad Cow" disease despite how long it has been since I lived there. Fine by me, I hate giving blood. I only gave out of guilt. WA state was the only state that didn't care about my 3 years in Germany.
The Germany prohibition for veterans and civilian employees of US Armed Forces has been lifted https://blogs.va.gov/VAntage/83743/f...ood-donations/

The ban for people who lived in Britain for a certain period in the 1980's is still in effect. This is an FDA controlled ban.

The ban was in place because there was no firm data on how long it could take for mad cow disease to manifest, there is no cure, and it is a really horrible way to die.
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:59 AM
 
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Much of what is done with and during medical encounters is teaching. Sometimes how or what patients think and/or feel need some related educational adjustment. These are medical opinions and decisions, not political.
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Old 06-20-2022, 09:07 AM
 
Location: By The Beach In Maine
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So I am really shaking my head over this.

The last time, if filled out any kind of medical form -- only one form for everyone, btw -- there was a section that started out, in bold, "IF you a female, please answer the following questions: . . . ."

So what is wrong with continuing that? I don't see how that kind of wording would offend anyone.
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Why would anyone decline a simple, life-saving act to grandstand over a single checkbox? Does it break his bones or pick his pocket? It's 0.5 seconds of your life - check it, make a small chuckle, move on.

Garrulous old fool.
You both have a point. Is it possible to agree on that? On the form, 'If you are a female, please fill out these questions..." is not pointless. Also, if you're there to give blood, just skip the question, and give the damn blood.

Now, if they insisted (which they did) that he must fill out, as a 60 year old male....or we could just bypass the argument about male and female and look at the guy's AGE, then I would understand why he decided to point it out.

As a volunteer, giving something of my own, I think I can control the terms I will choose to acknowledge or not. I will not give in to delusions that males can have babies. If the medical center needs blood that badly, then stop playing this stupid game.

It's not necessary to ask a 60 year old male if he's going to have a child soon. It's stupid. And it would make me think, were I a 60 year old male, if they can't handle deciphering the information put on the form that no, I have zero chance of needing to check that box, then maybe I don't trust them to take my blood.

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For one, female is more apt to have iron deficiency anemia.
That's true. I totally forgot about that. I remember one time being denied to give blood because they did that iron test in the blue liquid, and apparently, I didn't pass the test. First time in my life I ever thought about iron and deficiencies, as it had never been brought to my attention before that.
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Old 06-20-2022, 10:02 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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I disagree. In my opinion, people need to stand up to this nonsense
Yep! Conservatives staying neutral on these issues is the reason we are where we are...
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Old 06-20-2022, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Doesn't sound "inclusive" if they don't accept how 60 year old men think.
Yes, thank you.


Because one person out of every 100,000 has gender dysphoria, now we must all act like we are all somewhere on that spectrum.

As a man in my 60s, I am offended by this turn of events.
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