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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.80%
No 255 50.50%
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Old 06-18-2023, 07:12 PM
 
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Here's his analysis at the beginning of the offensive. Give it a listen

https://warontherocks.com/2023/06/uk...xes-of-attack/



Thank you, John.


And by the fruits of it
Will you judge the tree.


I judge by the results, not by opinions.
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Old 06-18-2023, 07:18 PM
 
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Video confirmation of the Storm Shadow hit on a Russian ammo depot. If Ukraine can keep hitting Russian logistics, they will break the enemy's backbone.


https://youtu.be/tbzdGooQKaY



I'll repeat myself for those with short term memory issues.
2 days ago, President Putin stated that, if Ukraine will keep targeting Russian territory, that will result in "sanitary border" roughly 300-400 km broad from the existing Russian federation. What puts that border pretty much way west of Kyiv.
So yeah, keep hitting "arm depots". West ignored Rybkov's ultimatum, and we have, what we have. West will ignore Putin's warning and will have, what it will have - western regions under Poland, central and eastern regions under Russia and amorphous grey zone several hundred km wide inbetween.
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Old 06-18-2023, 07:35 PM
 
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I'll repeat myself for those with short term memory issues.
2 days ago, President Putin stated that, if Ukraine will keep targeting Russian territory, that will result in "sanitary border" roughly 300-400 km broad from the existing Russian federation. What puts that border pretty much way west of Kyiv.
So yeah, keep hitting "arm depots". West ignored Rybkov's ultimatum, and we have, what we have. West will ignore Putin's warning and will have, what it will have - western regions under Poland, central and eastern regions under Russia and amorphous grey zone several hundred km wide inbetween.

The West isn't inclined towards negotiation or compromise. If they were then we wouldn't be in this situation as the assurances back in the early 90s about NATO would have been honoured.
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Old 06-18-2023, 07:47 PM
 
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I don't know where to place it, so I'll leave it here;

I see more and more reports on Twitter today on some elevated military activity in US.

Here is one, but that's not the only one, with display of different military equipment involved.

https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/...76386405220363

A lot of people are asking what's up with all that.
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Old 06-18-2023, 07:48 PM
 
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"The West" - USA, Canada, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, France, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, Czech Republic, Croatia, Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, Israel, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Japan and others, population 3.2 billion - has been given an ultimatum by Russia, population 144M.


Seriously!.... An ultimatum.
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Old 06-18-2023, 08:16 PM
 
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Ukraine took out base of Russian Arctic Brigade.

More Russian propaganda.

Bradley IFVs terrorize the enemy at night.

Challenger tanks enter the fight.


https://youtu.be/BBFGAqorfkc
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Old 06-18-2023, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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"The West" - USA, Canada, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, France, UK, Belgium, Netherlands, Czech Republic, Croatia, Portugal, Greece, Italy, Spain, Israel, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Japan and others, population 3.2 billion - has been given an ultimatum by Russia, population 144M.


Seriously!.... An ultimatum.
South Korea and Japan are not "The West". Just saying.
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Old 06-18-2023, 08:46 PM
 
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So were still seeing a constant pushing, and Ukriane blowing the daylights out of every ammo dump they can find. KA-52s are doing a number on Ukrainian vehicles, and Ukrainian vehicles are doing a number on everything else. At the start of the conflict its widely believed Russia had 120 of these KA-52s, And has lost about half of them. They've lost 4 in the last few days. To put it in perspective these are comparable (and id argue slightly better in many ways) then a Apache helicopter. But they have 60 of them vs our thousands of Apaches.

Basically its war, and both sides are taking losses. The difference is Ukraine can afford them more. The 16 or so bradleys they lost? Already sent them 16 replacements. Russia cant replace their losses or ammo usage. Ukraine has more tanks now then at the start of the war for example. And more ammo is shipped in constantly.
I suspect we will see a serious push soon. We still haven't seen a large group of tanks used that they have.
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Old 06-18-2023, 09:10 PM
 
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So were still seeing a constant pushing, and Ukriane blowing the daylights out of every ammo dump they can find. KA-52s are doing a number on Ukrainian vehicles, and Ukrainian vehicles are doing a number on everything else. At the start of the conflict its widely believed Russia had 120 of these KA-52s, And has lost about half of them. They've lost 4 in the last few days. To put it in perspective these are comparable (and id argue slightly better in many ways) then a Apache helicopter. But they have 60 of them vs our thousands of Apaches.

Basically its war, and both sides are taking losses. The difference is Ukraine can afford them more. The 16 or so bradleys they lost? Already sent them 16 replacements. Russia cant replace their losses or ammo usage. Ukraine has more tanks now then at the start of the war for example. And more ammo is shipped in constantly.
I suspect we will see a serious push soon. We still haven't seen a large group of tanks used that they have.
Exactly....but the Ruskateers here will spout off that "Russia has unlimited this and unlimited that"....
the reality is....they have to beg anything they can get from Iran....limited to a few flimsy drones and such...
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Old 06-18-2023, 09:50 PM
 
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Ukraine took out base of Russian Arctic Brigade.

More Russian propaganda.

Bradley IFVs terrorize the enemy at night.

Challenger tanks enter the fight.


https://youtu.be/BBFGAqorfkc



Here's Bradley and Leopard.


Narrative goes some like this: Here's praised Bradley and F-g Leopard. Not so much scary, as we were told. We f-d these here and will keep f-g them up. Heil Russia!


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bNXlcD2I00Q
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