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Old 06-30-2022, 07:27 AM
 
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Naryshkin: Poland is preparing a scenario for the dismemberment of Ukraine

Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation SergeyNaryshkin said that the leadership of Poland is preparing a scenario for the dismemberment of Ukraine. This is reportedRIA Novosti.

“According to the information received by the Service, the leadership of Poland has begun to work out scenarios for the de facto dismemberment of Ukraine,” Naryshkin explained.
According to him, the Polish government comes to the conclusion that the troops of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR can successfully complete the assigned tasks. Therefore, it seems impossible for the Poles to prevent the victory of Russia on the battlefield. In this regard, the Poles also assess the prospects for the survival of the presidential regime.Volodymyr Zelensky as "disappointing".
Naryshkin also believes that the Polish authorities are convinced that the United States and Great Britain will support the plan to dismember Ukraine.
“It is believed in Warsaw that as Russian troops advance deep into Ukrainian territory, Washington and London will have no choice but to show “unconditional solidarity” with an ally ready to “resolutely defend the interests of the West in Ukraine,” Naryshkin said.
Formerly Naryshkinstatedthat the attempts of the totalitarian-liberal regimes of the West to “cancel the Russian Federation” only indicate their belief that the world revolves around them.
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Old 06-30-2022, 07:45 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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To the contrary, it's been getting easier to keep his people believing his version of events. As NATO expands its membership and also beefs up its forces and equipment, it only makes it easier to claim, that NATO is out to get Russia, i.e. that it's an aggressive organization, not a defensive one. From a Russian perspective, it looks like NATO is ganging up on Russia.
Understandable, since they and their friends ARE ganging up on Russia.
But Russia started it. It won't matter what Ukrainian border look like in the end, or even if there are Ukrainian borders. Sanctions and boycotts (let's remember they are two different things) will crush Russia, who will never be able to bully the world again.
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Old 06-30-2022, 07:50 AM
 
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Naryshkin: Poland is preparing a scenario for the dismemberment of Ukraine

Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation SergeyNaryshkin said that the leadership of Poland is preparing a scenario for the dismemberment of Ukraine. This is reportedRIA Novosti.

“According to the information received by the Service, the leadership of Poland has begun to work out scenarios for the de facto dismemberment of Ukraine,” Naryshkin explained.
According to him, the Polish government comes to the conclusion that the troops of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR can successfully complete the assigned tasks. Therefore, it seems impossible for the Poles to prevent the victory of Russia on the battlefield. In this regard, the Poles also assess the prospects for the survival of the presidential regime.Volodymyr Zelensky as "disappointing".
Naryshkin also believes that the Polish authorities are convinced that the United States and Great Britain will support the plan to dismember Ukraine.
“It is believed in Warsaw that as Russian troops advance deep into Ukrainian territory, Washington and London will have no choice but to show “unconditional solidarity” with an ally ready to “resolutely defend the interests of the West in Ukraine,” Naryshkin said.
Formerly Naryshkinstatedthat the attempts of the totalitarian-liberal regimes of the West to “cancel the Russian Federation” only indicate their belief that the world revolves around them.
This is nonsense.

Russia already had made such a proposal to Poland before the invasion and it was immediately rejected.

If you haven't noticed (you have though, you know ...) Poland has been the staunchest defender of Ukraine, pusing weapons into their hands as quickly as they could manage it. No country with plans to divide up it's neighbor would be arming them out of it's own capabilities.

What you are pushing here is Glavset propaganda. Ridiculous.
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Old 06-30-2022, 08:29 AM
 
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Russians have been driven off Snake Island.
That's good news. Russia was hoping to use Snake Island as a radar and missile outpost. Since the Moskva took most of the anti-aircraft capabilities of the Black Sea fleet with it when it sank, the fleet is vulnerable to Ukrainian attack.


Russian Black Sea fleet stays well away from Ukraine - at least 100 miles. And in the end even that may not be far enough.
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:10 AM
 
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Your words, you must think this is true.

But bottom line facts, NATO is stronger then ever and Zelensky is still in power making a fool of Putin.
Meaningless words with nothing of substance to back it up. Yea lets listen to you.

Putin isn't the one looking like the fool here.

What's it like backing the neo nazis?
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:14 AM
 
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Your meaningless words with nothing of substance to back it up. Yea lets listen to you.

Putin isn't the one looking like the fool here.

What's it like backing the neo nazis?

Your last sentence is important. And it's not even neo-nazis, it's real nazis. Neo-nazis are more like nazis lite, the drunk skinhead hooligan type.

People in the west still have not realized that they are proudly supporting the bad guys and attacking the good guys... The propaganda machine has worked well...
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Russians have been driven off Snake Island.
That's good news. Russia was hoping to use Snake Island as a radar and missile outpost. Since the Moskva took most of the anti-aircraft capabilities of the Black Sea fleet with it when it sank, the fleet is vulnerable to Ukrainian attack.


Russian Black Sea fleet stays well away from Ukraine - at least 100 miles. And in the end even that may not be far enough.

our donated HIMARS doing their job!!!...
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Your last sentence is important. And it's not even neo-nazis, it's real nazis. Neo-nazis are more like nazis lite, the drunk skinhead hooligan type.

People in the west still have not realized that they are proudly supporting the bad guys and attacking the good guys... The propaganda machine has worked well...
It is hard to differentiate since some of the media, mainly left leaning, wont show people with the nazi tats or bring it up.
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:35 AM
 
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Russians have been driven off Snake Island.
That's good news. Russia was hoping to use Snake Island as a radar and missile outpost. Since the Moskva took most of the anti-aircraft capabilities of the Black Sea fleet with it when it sank, the fleet is vulnerable to Ukrainian attack.


Russian Black Sea fleet stays well away from Ukraine - at least 100 miles. And in the end even that may not be far enough.
Read that they are abandoning a ton of anti-aircraft and other weaponry.
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Old 06-30-2022, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Russians have been driven off Snake Island.
That's good news. Russia was hoping to use Snake Island as a radar and missile outpost. Since the Moskva took most of the anti-aircraft capabilities of the Black Sea fleet with it when it sank, the fleet is vulnerable to Ukrainian attack.


Russian Black Sea fleet stays well away from Ukraine - at least 100 miles. And in the end even that may not be far enough.
That's Great News!
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