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Old 06-30-2022, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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on the front lines..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibdo5msrqbw
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Old 06-30-2022, 11:22 AM
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Russians have been driven off Snake Island.
That's good news. Russia was hoping to use Snake Island as a radar and missile outpost. Since the Moskva took most of the anti-aircraft capabilities of the Black Sea fleet with it when it sank, the fleet is vulnerable to Ukrainian attack.


Russian Black Sea fleet stays well away from Ukraine - at least 100 miles. And in the end even that may not be far enough.
And this is hilarious. Russia claims it was a goodwill gesture. Some of the people on this thread will obviously believe such nonsense. It was a strategic site, but they couldn't hold it anymore than the Ukrainians could. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61992491
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Old 06-30-2022, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Russians have been driven off Snake Island.
That's good news. Russia was hoping to use Snake Island as a radar and missile outpost. Since the Moskva took most of the anti-aircraft capabilities of the Black Sea fleet with it when it sank, the fleet is vulnerable to Ukrainian attack.


Russian Black Sea fleet stays well away from Ukraine - at least 100 miles. And in the end even that may not be far enough.
Here is a good thread on Snake Island

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1542434258849263616

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Russian MoD spokesman Igor Konashenkov said that Russia has withdrawn its forces from Snake Island.
https://t.me/rian_ru/169294
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He claims this is a gesture of goodwill (similar to claims by Russian officials about why they retreated from Kyiv). In reality, Ukraine's receipt of Harpoon anti-ship missiles and HIMARS put Russian forces on the island at increasing risk. 2/
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The most significant aspect is that this could open the door to Ukrainian grain exports from Odesa, which is critical for Ukraine's economy and for the global food supply. 3/
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Old 06-30-2022, 11:38 AM
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They could hold Lysychansk for a long time like they did the steel works in Mariuopol. The geography is really good for defense. And they could inflict heavy casualties on the Russians. But the city is in a salient and it seems likely it will be cut off. Eventually the soldiers will run out of ammunition and food and be unable to continue to fight. And hundreds or thousands will be forced to surrender. I suspect they will withdraw in the next few days rather than get cut off. It doesn't seem they have the forces in place now to drive the Russians back to Poposna and clear the supply lines, which is what it would take to hold Lysychansk.
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Old 06-30-2022, 12:58 PM
 
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Naryshkin: Poland is preparing a scenario for the dismemberment of Ukraine

Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation SergeyNaryshkin said that the leadership of Poland is preparing a scenario for the dismemberment of Ukraine. This is reportedRIA Novosti.

“According to the information received by the Service, the leadership of Poland has begun to work out scenarios for the de facto dismemberment of Ukraine,” Naryshkin explained.
According to him, the Polish government comes to the conclusion that the troops of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR can successfully complete the assigned tasks. Therefore, it seems impossible for the Poles to prevent the victory of Russia on the battlefield. In this regard, the Poles also assess the prospects for the survival of the presidential regime.Volodymyr Zelensky as "disappointing".
Naryshkin also believes that the Polish authorities are convinced that the United States and Great Britain will support the plan to dismember Ukraine.
“It is believed in Warsaw that as Russian troops advance deep into Ukrainian territory, Washington and London will have no choice but to show “unconditional solidarity” with an ally ready to “resolutely defend the interests of the West in Ukraine,” Naryshkin said.
Formerly Naryshkinstatedthat the attempts of the totalitarian-liberal regimes of the West to “cancel the Russian Federation” only indicate their belief that the world revolves around them.
Again they hide the .ru domains of their links to phish people into clicking on them.

People need to remember EVERYTHING in the .ru domain is controlled by the Kremlin right now. Even formerly independent sources, since the conflict they have been taken over and the legitimate sources aren’t running them anymore. If you have any knowledge of network security, you have to then assume these sites are collecting data for intelligence or infecting Western computers, even if the malware is currently not detectable. So, don’t be stupid and give them your data by visiting there.

If you don’t know how to check URLs without clicking them, there is some info here https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-test...ing-it-2487171 (note the url is visible and not masked like the message above.) If you see .ru, stay away. Or if your curiosity demands it, use a proxy server and turn off cookies.

BTW, this is what the code looks like that is masking the URLs. You can decide whether it looks like a normal poster would post a link:
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URL="https://www.gazeta.ru/tags/person/vladimir_zelenskii.shtml"]COLOR=#000000]FONT=Arial] [/font][/color]COLOR=#1155cc]FONT=Arial][u]Volodymyr Zelensky[u][/font][/color][/url]COLOR=#000000]FONT=Arial] as "disappointing".[/font][/color]
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:25 PM
 
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Naryshkin: Poland is preparing a scenario for the dismemberment of Ukraine

Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation SergeyNaryshkin said that the leadership of Poland is preparing a scenario for the dismemberment of Ukraine. This is reportedRIA Novosti.

“According to the information received by the Service, the leadership of Poland has begun to work out scenarios for the de facto dismemberment of Ukraine,” Naryshkin explained.
According to him, the Polish government comes to the conclusion that the troops of the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR can successfully complete the assigned tasks. Therefore, it seems impossible for the Poles to prevent the victory of Russia on the battlefield. In this regard, the Poles also assess the prospects for the survival of the presidential regime.Volodymyr Zelensky as "disappointing".
Naryshkin also believes that the Polish authorities are convinced that the United States and Great Britain will support the plan to dismember Ukraine.
“It is believed in Warsaw that as Russian troops advance deep into Ukrainian territory, Washington and London will have no choice but to show “unconditional solidarity” with an ally ready to “resolutely defend the interests of the West in Ukraine,” Naryshkin said.
Formerly Naryshkinstatedthat the attempts of the totalitarian-liberal regimes of the West to “cancel the Russian Federation” only indicate their belief that the world revolves around them.
Every accusation a confession. But yeah - go lock horns with the Poles, guys. That'll be something to watch.
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:27 PM
 
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Again they hide the .ru domains of their links to phish people into clicking on them.
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You can decide whether it looks like a normal poster would post a link:
Rubles just can't buy competent propagandists any more. Sad.
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:27 PM
 
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Again they hide the .ru domains of their links to phish people into clicking on them.

People need to remember EVERYTHING in the .ru domain is controlled by the Kremlin right now. Even formerly independent sources, since the conflict they have been taken over and the legitimate sources aren’t running them anymore. If you have any knowledge of network security, you have to then assume these sites are collecting data for intelligence or infecting Western computers, even if the malware is currently not detectable. So, don’t be stupid and give them your data by visiting there.

If you don’t know how to check URLs without clicking them, there is some info here https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-test...ing-it-2487171 (note the url is visible and not masked like the message above.) If you see .ru, stay away. Or if your curiosity demands it, use a proxy server and turn off cookies.

BTW, this is what the code looks like that is masking the URLs. You can decide whether it looks like a normal poster would post a link:

What does it mean exactly?
So if I make a reference to any Russian site that I quote ( and these sites come from google) how do I know whether I am a "normal poster" or not, when I simply "cut and paste" the link to the article?


For example - this article from RIA "Russia withdrawn its garrison from the Snake Island, as a goodwill gesture."

https://ria.ru/20220630/zmeinyy-1799211082.html


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Old 06-30-2022, 01:40 PM
 
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Again they hide the .ru domains of their links to phish people into clicking on them.

People need to remember EVERYTHING in the .ru domain is controlled by the Kremlin right now. Even formerly independent sources, since the conflict they have been taken over and the legitimate sources aren’t running them anymore. If you have any knowledge of network security, you have to then assume these sites are collecting data for intelligence or infecting Western computers, even if the malware is currently not detectable. So, don’t be stupid and give them your data by visiting there.

If you don’t know how to check URLs without clicking them, there is some info here https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-test...ing-it-2487171 (note the url is visible and not masked like the message above.) If you see .ru, stay away. Or if your curiosity demands it, use a proxy server and turn off cookies.

BTW, this is what the code looks like that is masking the URLs. You can decide whether it looks like a normal poster would post a link:
I don't understand, the domain clearly shows if you just hover over the link.
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Old 06-30-2022, 01:48 PM
 
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Every accusation a confession. But yeah - go lock horns with the Poles, guys. That'll be something to watch.

This accusation is not void of true information.

I too think that Poland is getting ready to carve out a piece of Ukraine.



Only unlike Kremlin, I see nothing bad about it.
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