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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.57%
No 258 50.79%
Unsure 49 9.65%
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Old 05-24-2023, 11:53 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Is it so?
To the people like you I would advise to get off your moral high horse.

"Till the last Ukrainian" - remember?

"We've got a good deal - they fight for our interests, we just pay money."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rF41hm-rn8


( That's the "voluntary mobilization" in Ukraine. Till the last Ukrainian. As it has been paid for.)
Funny the ONLY people complaining about Americans willing to fight til the last Ukrainian are Russians. Sure, noone wants to be forcibly drafted but these people know it's not happening because of America, it's happening because of Putin.
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Old 05-24-2023, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Canada
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General says Poland must prepare for uprising in Belarus

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General Waldemar Skrzypczak, former Commander of the Polish Land Forces, believes there is a real prospect of an armed uprising in Belarus and is calling on Warsaw to prepare for such an eventuality.
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According to the Polish general, if the Ukrainian counteroffensive is successful, armed Belarusians who are now fighting on the side of Ukrainian forces could move to overthrow the regime of the self-proclaimed President of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko.
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Old 05-24-2023, 11:59 AM
 
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If true, then the Russian Freedom Fighters captured more territory in one day than the Wagner Group did in a year.

There are no "Russian freedom fighters" - it's all Ukrainian fake.

But with that being said, I see part of Ukrainians joining Russia more willingly, if someone like Prigozhin will take over.

That's just my guess.

He said a lot of things ( peppered with expletives) regarding today's Russia, than might resonate well with them.

Even though they don't resonate well with Putin's die hard crowd.
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:03 PM
 
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Funny the ONLY people complaining about Americans willing to fight til the last Ukrainian are Russians. Sure, noone wants to be forcibly drafted but these people know it's not happening because of America, it's happening because of Putin.

Russians ( in Russia) DO NOT complain about it.

Sadly enough, many of them are GLOATING about it, when they see the images of forcibly drafted people, who are dragged away, kicking and screaming.
Only some take pity on these hapless people.
But both parties know that it ain't "Putin" who is behind it all.



Me personally - I feel terrible for them.

Particularly for the South-Easterners.
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:12 PM
 
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Russians ( in Russia) DO NOT complain about it.

Sadly enough, many of them are GLOATING about it, when they see the images of forcibly drafted people, who are dragged away, kicking and screaming.
Only some take pity on these hapless people.
But both parties know that it ain't "Putin" who is behind it all.



Me personally - I feel terrible for them.

Particularly for the South-Easterners.
So there are none complaining. At all. In any of Russia.
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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If true, then the Russian Freedom Fighters captured more territory in one day than the Wagner Group did in a year.
To be fair the Russians defense was probably built on a they wouldn't dare attack base.
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:31 PM
 
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So there are none complaining. At all. In any of Russia.

You mean that Americans use Ukrainians "till the last Ukrainian" in this war?

No, I don't see any complaints.

Gloating, pity - yes. But no complaining.

Because "complaining" in this case would mean that they expected something different from the West to begin with.
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:45 PM
 
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You mean that Americans use Ukrainians "till the last Ukrainian" in this war?

No, I don't see any complaints.

Gloating, pity - yes. But no complaining.

Because "complaining" in this case would mean that they expected something different from the West to begin with.
Interesting. So you have met the entire population of Russia. That must keep you busy.
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:48 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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To be fair the Russians defense was probably built on a they wouldn't dare attack base.
That's fair. My observation about Russian Freedom Fighters capturing territory is aimed at the Ruskateers who insist Russia is gaining territory.
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Old 05-24-2023, 12:50 PM
 
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The last Ukrainian who hasn't fled from the country. Most fled West or south but you do have close to 3 million that went eastward to Russia. Of those people the bulk of them have made it clear that they have no intention of returning even once the war is over. Frankly I feel they should be returned home though some exceptions might be made as in the case of those who fled to Russia as they might face reprisals if they were to try to return to Ukraine, namely the western part of the country.
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