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Just because Delta and Omicron are the ones we hear about the most, doesn't mean they are the only ones out there. The original strain isn't extinct. And there are likely other strains out there that are not 'variants of concern'
Some studies are saying now that the best protection is to be vaccinated and THEN have a breakthrough infection.
There is something to be said for natural immunity. Now, I don't believe that I would say it is wise if you have risk factors to think along the lines of "eh, i'll just get it and then be done". If the young and otherwise healthy want to take that risk.. I don't agree with it, but, I also don't think they should be forced to. Although, the people who come up with the weird conspiracy theories, those people, hey, that speaks for the country's need to invest in mental health...
Everyone that i've seen personally that has died from it has had something underlying. Dia-beetus mainly. We had it run through our office back in February. I was one of three people who didn't get it. I was vaxxed at the time since I was part of the clinical trial, the other two were only there one day before the others all fell out. But, all those people who were infected were basically young and healthy. While they certainly didn't ENJOY the experience, they didn't have any long term effects. Again, Your Mileage may Vary.
There's also the part about being a breeding ground for new variants.
The number of fully vaccinated and boosted people I learn about who currently have Covid grows by the hour. Good luck. Fortunately it sounds like a cold or flu.
UK has 76% vaccinated one dose, 70% vaccinated, 40% boosted so of course those testing positive for Omicron will be higher since they outnumber unvaccinated 4 to 1. What doesn't add up is the high ratio of boosted compared to unvaccinated.
90% of Covid hospitalizations in my state are unvaccinated.
The number is likely higher, given people lie.
Just like last year, people gathered over Thanksgiving and in anticipation of the holiday. That was pre Delta, twice as infectious as earlier forms. Then came Omicrone, twice as infectious as Delta. In my neck of the woods, bars, restaurants and private rooms are full of merrymakers enjoying the season without regards to distancing or masking.
We have known since mid summer, vaccines begin to wane at the 5-6 month mark and certainly were not intended to protect against every future variant that emerges from geo areas with 1 billion + unvaccinated people.
Just a few weeks ago, it was easy to get a booster at nearly every grocery store on a walk in basis. Same day appointments were available at CVS and Walgreens. Now, most are sold out till after New Years.
UK has 76% vaccinated one dose, 70% vaccinated, 40% boosted so of course those testing positive for Omicron will be higher since they outnumber unvaccinated 4 to 1. What doesn't add up is the high ratio of boosted compared to unvaccinated.
It does add up, because those who are boosted WHO TEST POSITIVE are pretty unlikely to be getting Delta, Alpha, Beta, or whatever other variants are running around over there.
This chart doesn't mean that the boosted are more likely to get covid. It means that IF they have covid, they're more likely to have omicron rather than the other variants.
Those who are unvaxed, who get covid more frequently and more severely, are also getting the other variants, so the percentage who have omicron is smaller.
I would think they are more careful because they know they aren't vaxxed.
They are only emboldened when told they are "mandated" to get a shot.
They know the risk they are taking
The vaccinated think they have a protective bubble around them and aren't taking precautions.
May be at least part of the reason we had more deaths this year than last.
Overconfidence.
So much for the idea that this treatment is a "vaccine." As a vaccine, it hasn't been worth a ****. Seems to be more effective at causing heart damage than preventing covid.
I just thought I'd share this, and I believe I may already have in a thread that didn't go anywhere. But, I have a family member in their late eighties, who had Covid-19 almost twelve months ago. They were not vaccinated before hand, and had milder symptoms than I did when I had Covid-19 in July (go figure). That family member has yet to receive any inoculation against Covid-19, as they perceive it to be unnecessary. That family member had an antibody test done last week, and after twelve months and no boosters of any sort, they measured 2170.0 (I'm not sure what they measure it in), which was higher than other family members who only had two shots after six months.
While anecdotal, this proves my belief that natural immunity is the best immunity.
It does add up, because those who are boosted WHO TEST POSITIVE are pretty unlikely to be getting Delta, Alpha, Beta, or whatever other variants are running around over there.
This chart doesn't mean that the boosted are more likely to get covid. It means that IF they have covid, they're more likely to have omicron rather than the other variants.
Those who are unvaxed, who get covid more frequently and more severely, are also getting the other variants, so the percentage who have omicron is smaller.
The chart indicates those who tested positive for Omicron not hospitalized. Even vaccinated can carry the virus.
I have a family member in their late eighties, who had Covid-19 almost twelve months ago....That family member has yet to receive any inoculation against Covid-19....
That family member had an antibody test done last week....
they measured 2170.0, which was higher than other family members who only had two shots after six months.
What was the antibody measurement of boosted family members(3 shots)?
What was the antibody measurement of boosted family members(3 shots)?
They only tested to see whether they truly needed a booster shot to begin with. One of the people tested at 2000, and the other tested at 200. They had both received the original two shots at the same time. The one who tested at 200 is one year older than the family member who tested at 2170, and they are blood related. At least in my particular case, natural immunity seems to have provided the longest lasting immunity.
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