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Old 10-02-2020, 07:23 PM
 
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It has traditionally been one location, since virtually all of these people mail in their absentee ballots anyway. If you are as concerned about your "immune-compromised, 84 year old mother" as you have stated, then surely you will be wanting her to mail in her ballot and not be dropping anything off in person. Yes?

It is the Democrats at the county level that are attempting to game the system in order to try to cheat. They have already tried to break the law in Harris County this election and are clearly not to be trusted. It is within the power of the Governor to clarify these regulations on this issue, although that was not previously necessary, until the Democrats initiated their inappropriate and illegal antics this election cycle. But clearly now it is necessary.

The way that he has done this here - by expanding the number of days that people can drop their absentee ballots off in person (which almost nobody uses anyway, even on election day), while addressing security concerns by slapping down the cheating Democrats efforts to expand the number of locations that have to be monitored and watched, and limiting the drop off location to the traditional number of one - clearly appears to strike a very smart and reasonable balance.
My Mom doesn't want to use mail, given the efforts of various parties to interfere with efficient operations.

I voted Republican my entire adult life, since 1977. Not any longer. The Republicans can pound sand until they quit pushing voter suppression, white supremacy, hatred for anyone who isn't a rich white Christian, and generally quit being stupid.
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Old 10-02-2020, 07:24 PM
 
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My Mom doesn't want to use mail, given the efforts of various parties to interfere with efficient operations.

I voted Republican my entire adult life, since 1977. Not any longer. The Republicans can pound sand until they quit pushing voter suppression, white supremacy, hatred for anyone who isn't a rich white Christian, and generally quit being stupid.


And a great many people do not want the Democrats to be allowed or enabled to cheat in the administration of this election.
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Old 10-02-2020, 09:41 PM
 
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And a great many people do not want the Democrats to be allowed or enabled to cheat in the administration of this election.
Do you have any real evidence that Democrat administrators like Hollins in Harris County are cheating? He's definitely better than the horrifically bad Stan Stanart. Or Paul Bettencourt who never saw a person of color he didn't want to register as a voter. The Republicans are no longer qualified to run anything in Texas, given their history of voter suppression, destruction of last ditch medical care for the poor, underfunding of schools, and complete and utter failure to come up with a rational tax regime for the state.
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Old 10-02-2020, 10:41 PM
 
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My Mom doesn't want to use mail, given the efforts of various parties to interfere with efficient operations.

I voted Republican my entire adult life, since 1977. Not any longer. The Republicans can pound sand until they quit pushing voter suppression, white supremacy, hatred for anyone who isn't a rich white Christian, and generally quit being stupid.
I don't believe one thing in this post. There is no proof the republicans are pushing voter suppression. There are hardly any white supremacists and you have no proof of republicans support them. You also have no proof of their hatred for anyone who isn't a rich white Christian.
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Old 10-03-2020, 06:55 AM
 
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I don't believe one thing in this post. There is no proof the republicans are pushing voter suppression. There are hardly any white supremacists and you have no proof of republicans support them. You also have no proof of their hatred for anyone who isn't a rich white Christian.
"There are none so blind as those who refuse to see"
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Old 10-03-2020, 09:46 PM
 
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"There are none so blind as those who refuse to see"
Truth is treason in your empire of lies.
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Old 10-03-2020, 10:22 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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It has traditionally been one location, since virtually all of these people mail in their absentee ballots anyway. If you are as concerned about your "immune-compromised, 84 year old mother" as you have stated, then surely you will be wanting her to mail in her ballot and not be dropping anything off in person. Yes?

it is the Democrats at the county level that are attempting to game the system in order to try to cheat. They have already tried to break the law in Harris County this election and are clearly not to be trusted. It is within the power of the Governor to clarify these regulations on this issue, although that was not previously necessary, until the Democrats initiated their inappropriate and illegal antics this election cycle. But clearly now it is necessary.

The way that he has done this here - by expanding the number of days that people can drop their absentee ballots off in person (which almost nobody uses anyway, even on election day), while addressing security concerns by slapping down the cheating Democrats efforts to expand the number of locations that have to be monitored and watched, and limiting the drop off location to the traditional number of one - clearly appears to strike a very smart and reasonable balance.
False. That's obviously false because if it were true, Greg Abbott wouldn't have just passed a law a few days ago closing hundreds of drop off locations throughout Texas to disenfranchise voters. The law would have been in place for years already. And you have zero evidence of all this Democratic cheating of which you speak. This is because Abbott is worried of Texans voting Democrat, which is the trend thus he is trying to prevent voting.
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Old 10-03-2020, 10:27 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Numerous voting groups sue Gov. Abbott over closing ballot drop-off locations:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10...-drop-lawsuit/
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Old 10-04-2020, 08:30 AM
 
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False. That's obviously false because if it were true, Greg Abbott wouldn't have just passed a law a few days ago closing hundreds of drop off locations throughout Texas to disenfranchise voters. The law would have been in place for years already. And you have zero evidence of all this Democratic cheating of which you speak. This is because Abbott is worried of Texans voting Democrat, which is the trend thus he is trying to prevent voting.
The absentee ballot process is almost entirely a mail-based ballot system. The people who want them have to complete an application to receive one. Then they have to mail it back in using the specific procedures required under the law. Almost everyone who has voted absentee in Texas has historically done it this way.

The drop off option, which is typically only available on election day, is almost never used. Think about it. The reason that people are presumably voting "absentee" is because they are going to be "absent" from the polls on that day. Either they are out of town, or they are incapacitated in some way that prohibits them from voting using the ordinary voting process.

If they knew they were going to be able to drop off their ballot on election day in town, they could just as easily go and vote in person at the polls. The reason to even provide this option on election day is in case someone forgot to mail it in, who is not out of town, who somehow has managed to not be incapacitated enough to get to the County Clerk's office to drop it off, on the last day that voting is allowed to occur.

This has not been an issue until 2018, when some seriously irresponsible and untrustworthy Democrat people were voted into office in 2018 in some of the big cities, and especially in Harris County. The Harris County Clerk attempted to mail out ballot applications to EVERYONE in the county, contrary to the law, and was ready to do it, when he was slapped down by a lawsuit. We have also seen the antics of Lena Hidalgo, the new Harris County Judge (not a court judge), who is the lead administrator in the county.

If the Democrats were being sincere about this, they would just double down on pushing people who vote absentee to make sure to get their ballots mailed in as soon as possible. But no. They were trying to create situation that would have been very difficult to monitor safely so that they can cheat. These are not trustworthy people. Not at all. And they absolutely must not be deferred to outside the limits of the law in any way that depends on their trustworthiness.

Governor Abbott made a smart and responsible move here. He is overall doing a remarkably good job with all of this.
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Old 10-04-2020, 08:38 AM
 
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Numerous voting groups sue Gov. Abbott over closing ballot drop-off locations:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10...-drop-lawsuit/
From the article:
The impact of this eleventh-hour decisions is momentous, targets Texas’ most vulnerable voters—older voters, and voters with disabilities—and results in wild variations in access to absentee voting drop-off locations depending on the county a voter resides in,” attorneys in the LULAC suit argued. “It also results in predictable disproportionate impacts on minority communities that already hit hardest by the COVID-19 crisis.”

This is a flat-out lie, which is par for the course these days coming from the Democrat left.

The typical manner of returning the ballots is through the mail, not through a drop-off location. All absentee voters need to do is fill out their absentee ballot in accordance with the instructions and drop it in a mailbox. So the impact on voters is almost none.

The impact is on the Democrat party apparatchiks who were planning to try to game this process in order to engage in voter and election fraud, if they could get away with it.

If someone sees some numbers as far as how many absentee ballots were mailed in vs dropped off, say in 2016 or 2018, that would be very helpful and informative. What we are very likely to see is that nearly all of them were mailed in. As they should be during this election, especially for those people who are truly terrified about going out of the house as a result of their fear of the Wuhan virus.
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