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Old 11-20-2009, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Texas
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When the guy in the trailer next to yours breaks in and gets all of your Bud Light.

 
Old 11-20-2009, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
When the guy in the trailer next to yours breaks in and gets all of your Bud Light.
Sorry that happened to you.
 
Old 11-20-2009, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Projection?

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Originally Posted by summers73 View Post
Sorry that happened to you.

I'm not the one calling for revolution or praying psalm 109:8.

That'd be the shrieking, foaming at the mouth teabagger/neocon crowd.

 
Old 11-20-2009, 10:48 AM
 
Location: In my house
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For a Public Official to advocate secession is Treason
maybe it's me,but i can guarantee there is a lot more politicians are doing that can be considered treason than one of them bringing up the word secession....
 
Old 11-20-2009, 10:50 AM
 
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I'm not the one calling for revolution or praying psalm 109:8.

That'd be the shrieking, foaming at the mouth teabagger/neocon crowd.
While I mostly disagree with your politics, I have to admit that Politian Dipers is hilarious.
 
Old 11-20-2009, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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The question is, does your federal government really speak for the people? Can a government thousands of miles away from its constituent base of more than 300 million people really represent the country? When you voted for Obama in 2008 did you really support all his ideas? Almost all of his ideas? Most of his ideas? Or were you just looking for change because of a sinking economy and anger at the war?

The truth is, federal policies are almost never a unanimous proposition. Just as Unions are the main focus for Michigan democrats, and immigration is the main focus for California democrats. They both are forced to compromise and come as one big democratic party to get elected.

The states need more power but slowly the federal government has been claiming all power for itself. The happiest countries in the world are almost always very small in population. How can one federal entity really pass laws to govern such a diverse landscape and diverse people.

People may claim that all states have representation, but does it really feel that way? In this country the majority can force whatever they want through, disregarding the minority. Why is it OK to force 149 million people to follow a policy that only 151 million people supported(or realistically less through compromises).

If the states had more power, then California could have opted to not send its men on a pre-emptive war into Iraq. If Texas had more power, it could stem the tide of illegal immigrants coming into the state by protecting the border, and expelling illegals already there. And we won't even talk about the everchanging demographics of this country through legal immigration. About 1/3rd of this country is either an immigrant(mostly Asian, African, or Hispanic), their children, or illegal immigrants.

I don't support an armed revolution, but some things need to change, and if it comes to standing up for whats right, I hope we have the desire and courage to do the right thing.
 
Old 11-20-2009, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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When they are coming to collect your arms...
 
Old 11-20-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by AxisMundi View Post
Please list these other "economic drivers".

From huge corperations to that deli on the corner, greed does indeed drive the economy. People look for the best jobs with the highest pay so they might purchase things of better quality or merely keep up with the Jones'. Other people cater to the first set and having the same motivations as well, seek to sell the most and make the most money possible

Unchecked and un-regulated greed are certainly "bad things", but like everything else in life, moderated greed is a good thing.

It isn't the Ultimate Evil you make it out to be.
your "good greed" should be phrased as typical wants (not needs) and a personal drive towards a certain level of existance. this is a system of supply and demand also. I'm merely suggesting that the developer that buys that hunk of swampland at $50/acre and turns around and sells it for $20M per acre is the "unchecked" greed - how many millions does one really need??? case in point would be Oprah with the $1M per week allowance - absolutely nuts!
 
Old 11-20-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Joe_Ryder View Post
While I mostly disagree with your politics, I have to admit that Politian Dipers is hilarious.

I mostly like the part about them needing to be changed and for the same reason.

But I'm not angry about it.
 
Old 11-20-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Redshadowz View Post
The question is, does your federal government really speak for the people? Can a government thousands of miles away from its constituent base of more than 300 million people really represent the country? When you voted for Obama in 2008 did you really support all his ideas? Almost all of his ideas? Most of his ideas? Or were you just looking for change because of a sinking economy and anger at the war?

The truth is, federal policies are almost never a unanimous proposition. Just as Unions are the main focus for Michigan democrats, and immigration is the main focus for California democrats. They both are forced to compromise and come as one big democratic party to get elected.

The states need more power but slowly the federal government has been claiming all power for itself. The happiest countries in the world are almost always very small in population. How can one federal entity really pass laws to govern such a diverse landscape and diverse people.

People may claim that all states have representation, but does it really feel that way? In this country the majority can force whatever they want through, disregarding the minority. Why is it OK to force 149 million people to follow a policy that only 151 million people supported(or realistically less through compromises).

If the states had more power, then California could have opted to not send its men on a pre-emptive war into Iraq. If Texas had more power, it could stem the tide of illegal immigrants coming into the state by protecting the border, and expelling illegals already there. And we won't even talk about the everchanging demographics of this country through legal immigration. About 1/3rd of this country is either an immigrant(mostly Asian, African, or Hispanic), their children, or illegal immigrants.

I don't support an armed revolution, but some things need to change, and if it comes to standing up for whats right, I hope we have the desire and courage to do the right thing.
The Federal Government isn't some huge gesalt beast eating up state's rights for dinner, and then little children for a snack.

The Federal Government IS the States.

No "State soverignty" or "rights" has been lost in the least.

Granted Senators were indeed assigned by a State's Legislature prior to the 14th Amendment, but a Senator still answers to that State.
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