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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 14 6.25%
58-60 7 3.13%
55-57 13 5.80%
50-54 144 64.29%
49 or less 46 20.54%
Voters: 224. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-02-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: IL
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You don't believe her?
Ford? no, not at all

 
Old 10-02-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
Again, no one else aside from Ford and Kavanaugh matter here because they weren't in that room.
Judge was supposedly in the room.

The problem you and she have is that people she claims were in that house, at that party, say they weren't there. So, they matter. They wouldn't matter if she was attacked at a different place.
 
Old 10-02-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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Thank you for continuing to have an open mind and looking at evidence. The media takes one portion of the testimony and runs with it, and ignores the rest. It’s exactly the same thing they did with his testimony about the documents someone downloaded from the Democrats while he was White House counsel. They ignore the broader context of testimony to make it seem like he lied, when he didn’t. The man is a judge. They think he doesn’t understand what perjury is?
The fact that he is a judge doesn't mean that he wouldn't perjure himself. Many judges have been removed from the bench for this and other crimes.
 
Old 10-02-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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Why do think that Kavanaugh's and Judge's denials are more reliable than her claims? Have they provided any evidence that they were elsewhere during that time?
Ford is the one making the accusation. Do you not believe that people are innocent until proven guilty? (don't bother answering...it's a rhetorical question...it's obvious you don't believe that people are innocent until proven guilty).
 
Old 10-02-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Just curious, speaking of ferreting out truth: Do any of Kavanaugh's lies bother you? If not, why not?

Now you are scraping for the bottom of the barrel. Ford is allowed to have her 36 year old memory full of holes, but Kavanaugh is supposed to be a virtual lock box. Give it a rest.
 
Old 10-02-2018, 09:59 AM
 
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Judge was supposedly in the room.

The problem you and she have is that people she claims were in that house, at that party, say they weren't there. So, they matter. They wouldn't matter if she was attacked at a different place.
Maybe they're not telling the truth? How would one know? Both they and she swore under oath.
 
Old 10-02-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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BK raised his hand and promised to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Then he proceeded to violate that oath over and over. His supporters nuance his lies, but lie he did. Again and again he failed to tell the truth, or the whole truth, or nothing but the truth. That is indisputable. If a judge can't be held to the standard of honesty under oath, how can any witness? Appointing him to the court after his dishonesty is an affront to our entire judicial system.
 
Old 10-02-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn View Post
You don't believe her?

Not anymore, not when everyone has sworn under oath that Ford's version of events is false, and it never happened.
 
Old 10-02-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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Now you are scraping for the bottom of the barrel. Ford is allowed to have her 36 year old memory full of holes, but Kavanaugh is supposed to be a virtual lock box. Give it a rest.
I see. The lies of Kavanaugh come up and--as expected--are immediately dismissed. He actually made stuff up, on the little things, to cover his ass. Please. Give it a rest yourself.
 
Old 10-02-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Dem. Chuck Schumer just said on the floor what I say...who cares about what Brett did as a young man...
it's now, at 53, that counts...he did not show the demeanor of anyone we would like as SC judge. That's all.
Now, the omissions, or lies or black outs that he may have had not remembering are glaring...along with his temper.
Ya just can't tell me Mark and he didn't commiserate afterwards that's what teen boys do.

Now, talk about temper that was shocking...Lindsay Graham..I always liked him as my Gov of Florida..in the 80s.
but that hatred was appalling to me.
Dignified anger, guys.


my 2 cents.
What demeanor should someone have who has been accused of a heinous act, no evidence to support it. No witnesses that support it. The entire democrat party pronouncing him guilty. No trial no nothing.

I would be furious. IF you are honest you will admit that you would be too. Chuck Schumer is a political hack and part of the problem in DC known as career politicians.
I watched a man who coached baseball for years have a melt down when he was accused of abusing a player on his team. The man had a family. By all accounts a good man.
He was accused by a mother who never attended a practice, a game and didn't even know his name. He lost his cool. Anyone would have. He did nothing wrong. Like Ford this woman didn't have dates, places and her sole witness her son, pretty much denied it. Turns out woman was a bit of a drunk and loved her drugs. The crap never happened, but for about 3 months, the man and his family were terrorized. Who knows why she did it?
When your name is being destroyed by the system. When an entire political party is trying to pull a kangaroo court on you.. Yeah you get hot.
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