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Old 06-13-2013, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui View Post
you prefer to force women who do not want to be pregnant to go through pregnancy, labor and delivery and raise a baby against their will? do we need birthing camps?

women have the right to privacy and we also have the right to control our own reproductive organs. a woman has the right to end a pregnancy for any reason she wants to. you can think her choice is murder or selfish it really has no bearing on what a woman does, that you btw don't know or support.

the majority of women who had abortion do no regret it at all. it does not "permanently messes them up". the "father" in most cases are not denied their rights they have long since left the woman and have no desire to be a parent.

nothing good comes from trying to deny woman their rights. this is not a third world, women can do as they please in america
see this is where we differ.

You think it is okay for women to deny the right to life to other humans because they want to.

I don't.

And do you seriously think when the States ratified the "right to privacy" in the Constitution they were thinking of abortion? lols.

At least you all could change the Constitution instead of claiming it's right to privacy.

And I would prefer that a woman that doesn't want a child to not get pregnant in the first place. That's the easiest solution. Short of that, she doesn't have to right to end another life because she feels like it.

 
Old 06-13-2013, 04:58 PM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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I am pro choice and do believe in a limit on how far along women should be when getting one.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I am pro choice and do believe in a limit on how far along women should be when getting one.
So it's okay to terminate a pregnancy at 3 months but not at 8???

Same result.

Why the difference?
 
Old 06-13-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by OhioRules View Post
You have no proof of any of this because none of it is true.

Just propaganda.

According to Planned Parenthood 39 women died in 1972 while having an abortion, the last year it was illegal. Since there are millions more abortions a year now we can be sure lots more than 39 perish each year.

How does making it legal make it any safer? A law can make an elective procedure safe? lols.
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Every day in the U.S., more than two women die of pregnancy-related causes, with the maternal mortality ratio doubling from 6.6 deaths per 100,000 births in 1987 to 13.3 deaths per 100,000 births in 2006. (And as shocking as these figures are, Amnesty notes that the actual number of maternal deaths in the U.S. may be a lot higher, since there are no federal requirements to report these outcomes and since data collection at the state and local levels needs to be improved.)
Amnesty International Report on U.S. Maternal Health - TIME

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The national legal induced abortion case-fatality rate for 2004–2008 was 0.64 legal induced abortion-related deaths per 100,000 reported legal abortions.
Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2009
 
Old 06-13-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by OhioRules View Post
So it's okay to terminate a pregnancy at 3 months but not at 8???

Same result.

Why the difference?
Viability.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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None of what you posted has anything to do with what I said.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Originally Posted by jjrose View Post
Viability.
Well, if the kid or the mother is going to die during birth then abortion is the best option.

Don't think he/she was talking specifics though.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by OhioRules View Post
You have no proof of any of this because none of it is true.

Just propaganda.

According to Planned Parenthood 39 women died in 1972 while having an abortion, the last year it was illegal. Since there are millions more abortions a year now than in 1972 we can be sure lots more than 39 perish each year.

How does making it legal make it any safer? A law can make an elective procedure safe? lols.
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Originally Posted by OhioRules View Post
None of what you posted has anything to do with what I said.
There are the stats to prove it IS true.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Yet another dumb statement, why are they pushing for a 20 week ban on abortions in the first place. All the problems with immigration, the middle east and they continue to focus on marginal issues that will not change a thing.
I'm sure you'd much rather have Congress push amnesty for criminals through instead. What's dumb is the lefts insistence on polarizing every single statement and making broad us vs them statements. Want to know why nothing gets done in Congress? Look in the mirror.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by OhioRules View Post
Well, if the kid or the mother is going to die during birth then abortion is the best option.

Don't think he/she was talking specifics though.
Viability (of a fetus) - having reached such a stage of development as to be capable of living, under normal conditions, outside the uterus.

The English language isn't your strong suit is it?
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