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Old 04-23-2013, 04:57 AM
 
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Again, learn the difference between Muslims and RADICAL ISLAM.
They both believe in fairy stories so are of no use in the modern world.

Send them back to their own countries.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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They weren't even particularly religious.

They are on about the same level as abortion clinic bombers, who in this country I believe are radical Christians.

Of course when you bring that up, most Christians will say, "well they aren't real Christians.". And here is the thing, I agree.

Muslims can claim the same thing with terrorists, as the vast majority of Muslims live normal lives.
Oh they're real Christians but it is a weak pathetic comparison used by those desperately searching for moral equivalence in the defense of Islam.

While clearly wrong abortion doctor killers tend to focus their rage at abortion doctors who are well aware if the risks. Innocent civilians running a marathon, catching a bus or plane have not done anything.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:00 AM
 
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and some of those passers-by could also have been Muslims.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:00 AM
 
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Again, learn the difference between Muslims and RADICAL ISLAM.
The Muslims themselves recognize no difference. So why do you insist on creating one?
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:05 AM
 
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and some of those passers-by could also have been Muslims.
Or Hindu, Zoroasrians, Mormons, ..................Your point?
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Oh they're real Christians but it is a weak pathetic comparison used by those desperately searching for moral equivalence in the defense of Islam.

While clearly wrong abortion doctor killers tend to focus their rage at abortion doctors who are well aware if the risks. Innocent civilians running a marathon, catching a bus or plane have not done anything.
Many innocent people killed and injured in abortion bombings.

Unbomber only killed a handful of folks, yet he was considered a terrorist. Does your death count only count if you're Muslim?
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:09 AM
 
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The left wing press keeps trying to spin this by asking questions like what motive could they have had, is it the hard life they grew up in a war torn country bla bla bla. How does not know that its obvious they are attacking the USA over religion. Muslims feel attacked by the USA over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its why OBL attacked, The war in Iraq and a military presence in Saudi Arabia.

Its not hard to see its the same crap that the Fort Hood shooter attacked over. Yelling allahu akbar. Now the left wing press is trying desperately to spin it as anything but. This is because they want to have an inclusive view of Islam. "Its really a peaceable religion. No its Fing not. Its anything but that. The left wants to be tolerant of every one and every thing but the gun culture, Christian religion and White males.
Its the PC thing and you know it!

They were soooo hoping it was a right wing group.

It's gonna take these animals doing harm to "them" personally for them to wise up and cut the crap!
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:13 AM
 
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You can't assign any motive for sure one way or the other, yet. Maybe won't be able to ever.

But IMO, the older bro fits the very definition of the disgruntled lone wolf. He found the perfect excuse to act out in being Islam. However, to me it looks like he was a violent dude who wanted to eff some stuff up. Perhaps his brain was damaged during his boxing career. I don't know.

It doesn't look like some huge Muslim terror conspiracy, however.

And before anyone chimes in with the Muslim apologist stuff - looking at something and coming to a conclusion based on the clues in front of you doesn't make one an apologist.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:13 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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The Crusades? And that has affected us how? Fast forward and get relevant. Or do you wish to wring your hands about the Civil War also.

And Islam does hate America. They finally got their opportunity to attack us on 911. Wake up.
From the horses mouth.............

Why Islam Hates America

Muslims hate America because of who America is and what America represents. Muslims hate the core of American culture and they fear that America’s influence in politics, entertainment, and wealth will erase their culture. To a devout Muslim America is vile, blasphemous, and as far from “pure” as pure can be. Muslims see American women degrading themselves on the silver screen and being unfit as wives and mothers. Muslims see American men as slovenly, easily corruptible, lacking of virtue, and wallowing in one vice or anther. Are they wrong?
Thank you for proving my point. Some people in this country are will believe anything that certain media outlets present to them. I bought up the crusades to correct those who believe that they were one-sided. If the Muslims were so hell bent on terror why did the Moors bring the european Monarchy out of the dark ages in the first place.

Truthfully if you really wanted to be educated it is not just the Muslims and the rest of the world the direction this country is going via The United States of Corporate America. Hell, even thinking people in this country does not like the direction either. We are constantly losing pur rights little by little with each new Congress and elected President, but yet we take sides and argue amongst ourselves over stupid stuff like gay marriage, abortion and who should get welfare or not, meanwhile those crooks in Washington just repealed something that is illegal for everyone else.
News about Congress Repeals Inside Trading

We bomb innocent civilians in other countries, steal their resources, go to war under false pretenses and kill thousands and continue to secretly torture people innocent or not and than wonder why we still get attacked. To be real, it is a vicious circle. We attack and provoke other countries and their way of life and at a peak of desperation they launch some weak attack and we tighten up on our security and in the proceess lose a few more rights and we gladly give them up because of fear.
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:16 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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You can't assign any motive for sure one way or the other, yet. Maybe won't be able to ever.

But IMO, the older bro fits the very definition of the disgruntled lone wolf. He found the perfect excuse to act out in being Islam. However, to me it looks like he was a violent dude who wanted to eff some stuff up. Perhaps his brain was damaged during his boxing career. I don't know.

It doesn't look like some huge Muslim terror conspiracy, however.

And before anyone chimes in with the Muslim apologist stuff - looking at something and coming to a conclusion based on the clues in front of you doesn't make one an apologist.
Mcveigh was a Christian but not once did I ever hear that there was an attack on Christianity. Bush is a Christian but had no probelm in authorizing the torture og hundreds of people innocent or not
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