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Old 08-10-2012, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have no agenda. I consider myself a classical liberal. I believe in; the rule of law, due process, individual liberties, limited government, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and free markets among other things. I believe hayek was right when he equated socialism with a form of serfdom.

If others believe in different forms of socialist governments. Ok. I'm not responsible for that.
These are all values that resonate with the American ideal. We should cherish them and foster them. I agree on all levels. There also exists a national moral contract that mandates that our nation is responsibile for all it's people. Their life, their liberty and their pursuit of happiness. There is a balance between our individual liberties and our moral contract.

 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:56 PM
 
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So, who is don black? Who are the "right wingers" you are refering to?
Neo-Nazi who founded Stormfront.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:58 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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So now you are linking Occupy Wall Street with Neo-Nazism. Your posts get nuttier and nuttier by the moment.
I provided a story that included an interview with an anti semite at an ows protest. Just how is that "nutty?"

 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:59 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Neo-Nazi who founded Stormfront.
I don't go to that forum. This one is goofy enough as it is.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:59 PM
 
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I provided a story that included an interview with an anti semite at an ows protest. Just how is that "nutty?"
Because being anti-semitic doesn't make one a Neo-Nazi White Supremacist and 1 person doesn't epitomize an entire movement
 
Old 08-11-2012, 12:00 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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These are all values that resonate with the American ideal. We should cherish them and foster them. I agree on all levels. There also exists a national moral contract that mandates that our nation is responsibile for all it's people. Their life, their liberty and their pursuit of happiness. There is a balance between our individual liberties and our moral contract.
Define "moral contract."
 
Old 08-11-2012, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Ooooh, it's opposite day in kindergarten.
 
Old 08-11-2012, 12:03 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Because being anti-semitic doesn't make one a Neo-Nazi White Supremacist and 1 person doesn't epitomize an entire movement
No, but it does make one a racist. This is something I believe many neo-nazi white supremacists are. Of course you don't have to be white....to be a racist.




Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street - LA - YouTube
 
Old 08-11-2012, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I merely provided an article indicating antisemitism was present at an occupy wall street protest. It was germain to the topic you introduced. After all you expressed the fear, uncorroborated, that the republican party may become racist. Shouldn't you provide some support for your contentions? Wouldn't that be considered "serious?"
I said the far-right, it is possible for both sides to have things be too extreme. As for the attitudes of those within Occupy, there were decent people within that movement, but there were also those that had little interest in any form of political power and I am sure there were some that were racist as well, it was an organization that was loosely started on the idea of the collective population rather than political parties. It was an organization that had plenty of liberal roots, but in the end it never amounted to much more than a footnote in history and has shown to have little impact on becoming any form of political power. (which is actually kind of sad, the group really needed to let go the notion of no leader and push for key voices...though on the other end, it was a great example of moving further towards communism in the sense that it was a group that was about a collective voice and the act of sharing everything.)

If you want me to provide support, you will have to wait, it is late here and I don't feel like hunting for links.
 
Old 08-11-2012, 12:05 AM
 
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No, but it make one a racist. Something I believe many neo-nazi white supremacists are.




Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street - LA - YouTube
In an attempt to link occupiers with White Supremacists you post a video of a Black woman. Your posts lack substance and basically are just catch phrases and one liners, lefists hate freedom, nazis are liberal, etc.... Pure nonsense.
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