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Old 08-10-2012, 10:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Dutchman01 View Post
Let's see. You want me to prove your baseless accusations are "wrong?" Don't tell me, your a registered democrat, right? I'll tell ya' what. Why don't you prove your unfounded accusations are accurate. Put up or shut up.


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I've only made one accusation, which is true, you support jailing pot growers. If Neo-Nazis are left, does that mean SLPC is right wing? If so, why do so many conservatives condemn SLPC. Why do so many right wingers also condemn the NAACP, who has a history of challenging White Supremacists.

 
Old 08-10-2012, 10:59 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Right - but it wouldn't make a lot of sense to try to position them on a modern-day American left-right spectrum. That's the issue here. So for instance, if someone asked, "Where would you place King Canute's reign on an American political axis?" my reply would be - I wouldn't. It's inapplicable.

North Korea is also well outside of our political spectrum. It's some merger of a dynasty, a military dictatorship, and a command economy. The best we could do would be to look at individual policies of the regime, and look at those on an American political spectrum. But even that will have limited utility, since there is no American political concept that captures something like "juche" as it exists in North Korea.
I thought it was a rather strange assertion as well.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Though Hitler for "tactical" reasons had rhetorically declared a 1920 party platform with socialist platitudes "unshakable," actually "many paragraphs of the party program were obviously merely a demagogic appeal to the mood of the lower classes at a time when they were in bad straits and were sympathetic to radical and even socialist slogans...Point 11, for example...Point 12...nationalization...Point 16...communalization.... put in at the insistence of Drexler and Feder, who apparently really believed in the 'socialism' of National Socialism."[98] In actual practice, such points were mere slogans, "most of them forgotten by the time the party came to power.... the Nazi leader himself was later to be embarrassed when reminded of some of them."[98] Historian Conan Fischer argues that the Nazis were sincere in their use of the adjective socialist, which they saw as inseparable from the adjective national, and meant it as a socialism of the master race, rather than the socialism of the "underprivileged and oppressed seeking justice and equal rights."
Feel free to click on the link and read through an easy description on wiki, I know you Cons want to pretend like Nazis are liberal socialists...but you are barking up the wrong tree on this one. This is also the reason why I never want to see the Republican party move too far to the right because there will come a point where the Republicans will get behind a leader who has a strong sense of nationalism, antisemitism, and racism.

It is great if you guys want to keep this thread going as a history lesson thread, but if you are trying to push a Con conspiracy theory, you are really grasping for straws on this one.

 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Oh and also on that wiki link, it is true that Hitler didn't see himself as either left or right, he did see himself as a superior party. So if you want to argue and debate about how much of a psychopath he really was, then sure, that makes total sense.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:03 PM
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The Nazis were Socialists.

Socialists are liberals.

Liberals are left wing.

Nazis are extreme.

Therefore; Neo-Nazis are Left Wing Extremists.

Not sure if serious

Because anybody that has half a brain couldn't really believe this.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:06 PM
 
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So why do so many conservatives attack groups that attack White Supremacist groups? If White Supremacists groups are left wing, wouldn't right wingers support attacks on them. It's quite the opposite.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...aw-center.html
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:10 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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I've only made one accusation, which is true, you support jailing pot growers. If Neo-Nazis are left, does that mean SLPC is right wing? If so, why do so many conservatives condemn SLPC. Why do so many right wingers also condemn the NAACP, who has a history of challenging White Supremacists.
No you didn't.

from your post #43.
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I'm willing to bet that on many issues you side against civil liberties, Civil Rights Act, Real ID, Arizona SB1070, abortion, etc...
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:14 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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So why do so many conservatives attack groups that attack White Supremacist groups? If White Supremacists groups are left wing, wouldn't right wingers support attacks on them. It's quite the opposite.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...aw-center.html
I'm sorry but your syntax is incorrect here. Would you please correct it so I can clearly understand what it is you want me to respond to?
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:16 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Not sure if serious

Because anybody that has half a brain couldn't really believe this.
Believe what exactly?
 
Old 08-10-2012, 11:18 PM
 
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I'm sorry but your syntax is incorrect here. Would you please correct it so I can clearly understand what it is you want me to respond to?
The post wasn't directed towards you, so don't bother responding. I'm still waiting to hear what civil rights you support that leftists don't support. Doubt I'll ever get an answer
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