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Old 08-10-2012, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Do your homework, just because a party name has socialist in it doesn't make it socialism...seriously, where do you guys get your education?
Education is "elitist."


 
Old 08-10-2012, 06:13 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Do your homework, just because a party name has socialist in it doesn't make it socialism...seriously, where do you guys get your education?
Well in all fairness any regime that believes in an overly powerful central government that interfers into the affairs of it's citizens isn't going to be what is considered classical or even neo classical in nature. I'd say the national socialists pretty much qualified in that respect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

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Old 08-10-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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Education is "elitist."

Education is a fine thing. I have a couple of degrees. I highly recommend them myself.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Well in all fairness any regime that believes in an overly powerful central government that interfers into the affairs of it's citizens.
That is a definition of tyranny perhaps. But not of socialism.

History provides us with examples of both left-wing tyranny and right-wing tyranny.

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I'd say the national socialists pretty much qualified in that respect.
And along with Mussolini's fascists they stand as the example without peer of right-wing tyranny.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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The far left also can claim groups like the ELF.

Top 4 Environmental Extremist Groups


Animal Rights and Environmental Extremists

The far left can claim a lot of nutbag extremists.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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That is a definition of tyranny perhaps. But not of socialism.

History provides us with examples of both left-wing tyranny and right-wing tyranny.
Tyranny can take many forms but both the fascists and communists are totalitarian forms of government that rely on strong central government. Classical liberalism relies on a weak central government as a way to protect individual liberties. Today classical liberalism is related to today's conservatism and or libertarianism.

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There was a revival of interest in classical liberalism in the 20th century led by Friedrich Hayek and Milton Friedman.[8] Some call the modern development of classical liberalism "neo-classical liberalism," which argued for government to be as small as possible in order to allow the exercise of individual freedom, while some refer to all liberalism before the 20th century as classical liberalism.[9]

The term classical liberalism was applied in retrospect to distinguish earlier 19th-century liberalism from the newer social liberalism.[10]

Libertarianism has been used in modern times as a substitute for the phrase "neo-classical liberalism", leading to some confusion. The identification of libertarianism with neo-classical liberalism primarily occurs in the United States,[11] where some conservatives and right-libertarians use the term classical liberalism to describe their belief in the primacy of economic freedom and minimal government.[12][13][14]


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And along with Mussolini's fascists they stand as the example without peer of right-wing tyranny.
Mussolini started out his political life as a socialist. Stalin was a great admirer of him.

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Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini (29 July 1883 – 28 April 1945) was an Italian politician who led the National Fascist Party, ruling the country from 1922 to his ousting in 1943, and is credited with being one of the key figures in the creation of fascism.

Originally a member of the Italian Socialist Party and editor of the Avanti! from 1912 to 1914, Mussolini fought in World War I as an ardent nationalist and created the Fasci di Combattimento in 1919, catalyzing his nationalist and socialist beliefs in the Fascist Manifesto,
 
Old 08-10-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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North Korea officially calls itself a "democratic republic." Does that make it one?
North Korea is a very interesting regime. It has become what amounts to a communist monarchy. Quite remarkable actually.
 
Old 08-10-2012, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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The Nazis were the National Socialist Workers Party.

I don't see how you can hide from that word "socialist".
Read up on your History, Night oof the Long Knives, Hitlers Purge of the SA.
Or just Google, Russ Pearce and JT Ready
 
Old 08-10-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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Do your homework, just because a party name has socialist in it doesn't make it socialism...seriously, where do you guys get your education?
 
Old 08-10-2012, 09:05 PM
 
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NAZI stands for National Socialist.

How is this not Socialism?

Hello!

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Do your homework, just because a party name has socialist in it doesn't make it socialism...seriously, where do you guys get your education?
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