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The Nazis were the National Socialist Workers Party.
I don't see how you can hide from that word "socialist".
When I was a kid I got stumped on this too. The reality is the Nazi party was a right wing party. The fact is, to their left were their enemies and that was social democrats, liberals, socialist and communist. This is not an opinion but fact and easy to read up on.
Conservatives don't, generally speaking, believe that fostering dependence on the government is a good thing at all.
Name a single liberal, moderate, progressive with citations who believes that "fostering" dependence on the government is preferable to independence.
The problem with conservatives is that they have their heads up on the clouds filled with utopia dreams of some mythical age of free market economics, while liberals and progressives tried to deal with the toxic waste that "free" market economies produce. Now that isn't to say that some of the ideas and policies that they create are always the best solutions but when you are knee deep in excrement most ideas are better than nothing.
When I was a kid I got stumped on this too. The reality is the Nazi party was a right wing party. The fact is, to their left were their enemies and that was social democrats, liberals, socialist and communist. This is not an opinion but fact and easy to read up on.
Please don't bring facts into play in this thread. Facts have no place in a liberal bash fest.
Look, I mean no disrespect but what you don't understand, will never understand, is in the first 30 seconds or so of that video that pretty much sums up the conservative ideal;
"all people should be treated equally without regard to race and thus allowed to rise or fall in keeping with their individual commitments to hard work, self reliance, and personal responsibility."
That's what "most" conservatives mean by inclusiveness; everyone has an equal opportunity to succeed.
Conservatives don't, generally speaking, believe that fostering dependence on the government is a good thing at all. I can't speak for all conservatives here but I do believe some assistance from the federal government is necessary for those who cannot fend for themselves but to a much lesser degree than say most american liberals. I do believe, like the founders of the nation, that a smaller less powerful central government is to be prefered to the huge, powerful central government espoused by.........people like you; american liberals, social democrats, national socialists, communists, assorted marxists, ect, ect, ect.
I respect your decision to disagree with me. I just ask you treat me with the same respect I treat you with. I'm just trying to say american liberals, among others, just need to stop the hating those who do not agree with your political positions. The hate just needs to stop.
Sure RWC think that and I have a bridge to sell you REAL CHEAP
Nope. Perhaps you should read why the Nazis called themselves "National Socialists".. Hint: It was a name only meant to attract the conservative nationalists and the left-wing socialist supporters in order to garner votes. In action, they were the extreme right.
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Socialists are liberals.
Nope, again. Socialism and Liberalism are two completely different socioeconomic tents of thought.
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Liberals are left wing.
Only in America. In the rest of the world, Liberals are in the centre.
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Nazis are extreme.
Well, you got one right at least.
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Therefore; Neo-Nazis are Left Wing Extremists.
A faulty conclusion based off of simplistic, illogical thoughts.
Name a single liberal, moderate, progressive with citations who believes that "fostering" dependence on the government is preferable to independence.
You mean one that will admit it? In all fairness if I were a democratic politician I'd say I was "helping" people. Being the cynical type that I am I'd say this is really part and parcel of the democratic party's highly successful tactic of identity politics.
Name a single liberal, moderate, progressive with citations who believes that "fostering" dependence on the government is preferable to independence.
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Being the cynical type that I am I'd say this is really part and parcel of the democratic party's highly successful tactic of.
Considering the liberal democratic policies have been an objective for 70 years with millions of pages of documents from the Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, and Clinton administrations, thousands of hours of taped conversations, to say nothing of the fact that NOTHING in Washington remains secret, you shouldn't have a problem producing a single citation.
Name a single liberal, moderate, progressive with citations who believes that "fostering" dependence on the government is preferable to independence.
The problem with conservatives is that they have their heads up on the clouds filled with utopia dreams of some mythical age of free market economics, while liberals and progressives tried to deal with the toxic waste that "free" market economies produce. Now that isn't to say that some of the ideas and policies that they create are always the best solutions but when you are knee deep in excrement most ideas are better than nothing.
As a conservative I'd have to say marx's vision of a pure communism in which the distribution of goods and services by associations of free individuals without a government is something that would more qualify as a "utopian dream."
As for problems you do realize there are some 100 million dead as a result of trying to impliment marx's "utopian society" during the 20th century alone.
In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone--one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it.
In regards to "toxic waste" right now the most polluted country in the world is a communist country, china. Imagine that.
China, the "factory of the world", is the most polluted country
Beijing (AsiaNews/Agencies) – "China has paid a high price in environmental terms" for its rapid economic development over the last 20 years. This is what Pan Yue, vice-director of the State Administration for Protection of the Environment (SEPA) told the seventh Green Forum of China, which opened on Saturday 18 June in Beijing.
According to Pan Yue, development must respect the needs of the environment and society, or else the predicted economic growth rate of 400% in 2020 will bring a corresponding increase in pollution and exhaust the country's natural resources. Even if China has become "the factory of the world", he said, it exports only "products of low industrial level" to more developed nations and "consumes its own resources", both material and environmental. For example, China uses more water and dumps more sewage than any other nation. Its gross domestic product is between 400 and 1,000 US dollars per capita, but its pollution levels are similar to those in western countries with a GDP per capita of between 3,000 and 10,000 dollars.
Pollution has reduced habitable land from six million sq km in 1949 to three million today, while the population has grown from 600 million to 1.3 billion. Beijing has become notorious for its congested traffic – more than two million vehicles are always in circulation, and they will increase to five million in 2020 – and for its air pollution. Expensive subways have proved insufficient to lessen traffic and plans are afoot to transfer public service offices to the outskirts. Currently government offices are built in the most prestigious and expensive areas, like Zhongnanhai, near the central imperial Palace amid trees and little lakes.....
Please don't bring facts into play in this thread. Facts have no place in a liberal bash fest.
In point of fact "most" of the posters on this thread are "american liberals." I'd also like to point out most of the "bashing" has also been by "american liberals."
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