COVID 19 stats - ALLEGHENY COUNTY and beyond (Pittsburgh, Republic: 2015, tax rates)

[Kippy]

Saturday numbers are out. Twenty-one new cases and two new deaths for Allegheny County.

Forty-three new cases (yikes!) for Westmoreland County. Forty percent of Westmoreland County’s cases are in nursing homes.

[szug-bot]

Originally Posted by Kippy

Saturday numbers are out. Twenty-one new cases and two new deaths for Allegheny County.

and from last 15 days, starting with most distant:


48, 21, 19, 15, 11, 21, 22, 62, 26, 7, 17, 29, 61, 28, 21

take away that 61 from last week and it looks like the pandemic's days are numbered for allegheny county!

[Reggiezz]

The Allegheny County Health Department on Saturday reported two additional covid-19 deaths, bringing the total to 73...

At least 52 of the county’s covid-19 deaths — more than 70% — have been attributed to 32 nursing homes and personal care facilities, with at least 251 residents and 81 employees testing positive, state data show.

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburg...m-coronavirus/

[Independentthinking83]

Originally Posted by Reggiezz

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburg...m-coronavirus/

More evidence this can be managed.

Most of the deaths across this county including Allegheny county are in nursing homes, which are hotspots. People in NY and Florida have tested positive for virus antibodies around 15 percent on average. These are folks that had it and recovered. In neighboring Ohio 3,000 of the states positive cases are in state prisons. With 95 percent of those folks asymptomatic.

This virus can and should be managed. Prisons, nursing homes and those with weak immune systems need to be restricted. If you end up with a temperature you should be tested to confirm or deny. Everything else needs to open, maybe limit large gatherings crammed together till fall.

Otherwise let’s open up, wash our hands, wear a mask as an option and move on with life.

[Enough_Already]

Originally Posted by Independentthinking83

More evidence this can be managed.

Most of the deaths across this county including Allegheny county are in nursing homes, which are hotspots. People in NY and Florida have tested positive for virus antibodies around 15 percent on average. These are folks that had it and recovered. In neighboring Ohio 3,000 of the states positive cases are in state prisons. With 95 percent of those folks asymptomatic.

This virus can and should be managed. Prisons, nursing homes and those with weak immune systems need to be restricted. If you end up with a temperature you should be tested to confirm or deny. Everything else needs to open, maybe limit large gatherings crammed together till fall.

Otherwise let’s open up, wash our hands, wear a mask as an option and move on with life.

Ultimately, the people will decide when the stay at home orders end if the government does not move in sync with the feelings of the majority of the people. The media created fear and panic. Some of that fear and panic was based on a real threat but much of it was based on an agenda.


If the death rate ends up being near the rate of the flu, then we will have thrown away trillions of dollars in economic activity. Mark my words once life gets back to something like normal, the media will use the unemployment rate and economic contraction against the current president. The media wanted this to be a crisis. Notice how the media wants to postpone everything except the November election.

[Enough_Already]

Originally Posted by szug-bot

His unapologetic rudeness and brashness was a new low for American history.

This is exactly why I like him. Were need someone to kick butt and point out how badly we have bastardized the country, economy. and the constitution. Above all we need someone to take on the media. The media has a pervasive political media and they using "news" to disguise propaganda and brainwashing. CNN will go to one hospital which is overwhelmed with patients and make people believe this is the case every where and people believe it because it is the "news". The don't tell us about how UPMC has 118 cases in 40 hospitals and has plenty of supplies and equipment.



The media is like the old Outer Limits show "we will control all that you see and hear".

[gg]

Originally Posted by Enough_Already

Ultimately, the people will decide when the stay at home orders end if the government does not move in sync with the feelings of the majority of the people. The media created fear and panic. Some of that fear and panic was based on a real threat but much of it was based on an agenda.


If the death rate ends up being near the rate of the flu, then we will have thrown away trillions of dollars in economic activity. Mark my words once life gets back to something like normal, the media will use the unemployment rate and economic contraction against the current president. The media wanted this to be a crisis. Notice how the media wants to postpone everything except the November election.

As with most people we are on the fence thinking about what is the best we can do for the US and our people. So what is the best we can do? Well we have over 50,000 deaths in the US. The trajectory looks bad even today. We are on our way to a huge number no matter what we do at this point. If you could take NYC out of the equation things look very different however. NY is the hotbed of the world. NJ is pretty bad as well and really the democratic north east is a mess. Now once you get out of a few hotspots things look wildly different. Thankfully we have a leader that is letting states dictate what goes on, which is smart, so we are the opposite of a dictator run country. Take CA for example. Per capita, they are doing great. Warm weather? Sun? Don't know, but something is is there that is helpful. Should we all be running as if we are NYC? No. Thanks to our freedoms from our president, we are going to go local. In PA Wolf is going to do things locally as well. Obviously, Pittsburgh is doing much better than Philly, but that was predictable as Philly isn't going to listen and just do whatever.

I don't think we can just say, oh 50,000. That is a lot of deaths. One thing for sure, if you look at a world map, this virus hits free countries much harder than the likes of China or other horrible countries that lie and run their people as puppets.

[Enough_Already]

Originally Posted by gg

One thing for sure, if you look at a world map, this virus hits free countries much harder than the likes of China or other horrible countries that lie and run their people as puppets.

Or maybe it is the free countries are being honest. You can't tell me you believe the numbers from China.

[ForYourLungsOnly]

Originally Posted by Enough_Already

Or maybe it is the free countries are being honest. You can't tell me you believe the numbers from China.

The reported "official" numbers from China are laughable

[Enough_Already]

Originally Posted by gg

As with most people we are on the fence thinking about what is the best we can do for the US and our people. So what is the best we can do? Well we have over 50,000 deaths in the US. The trajectory looks bad even today. We are on our way to a huge number no matter what we do at this point. If you could take NYC out of the equation things look very different however. NY is the hotbed of the world. NJ is pretty bad as well and really the democratic north east is a mess. Now once you get out of a few hotspots things look wildly different. Thankfully we have a leader that is letting states dictate what goes on, which is smart, so we are the opposite of a dictator run country. Take CA for example. Per capita, they are doing great. Warm weather? Sun? Don't know, but something is is there that is helpful. Should we all be running as if we are NYC? No. Thanks to our freedoms from our president, we are going to go local. In PA Wolf is going to do things locally as well. Obviously, Pittsburgh is doing much better than Philly, but that was predictable as Philly isn't going to listen and just do whatever.

I don't think we can just say, oh 50,000. That is a lot of deaths. One thing for sure, if you look at a world map, this virus hits free countries much harder than the likes of China or other horrible countries that lie and run their people as puppets.

50,000 deaths is a big number but we have to have perspective. How many of those deaths are people from nursing homes, prisons, and other closed environments. How many of the deaths are people under 60? How many deaths are in people without underlying health conditions? The media bullied us into a total shutdown which has cost us trillions of dollars and many people will experience long-term hardship. We have destroyed peoples lives and dreams. Could we have minimized the deaths by having an approach which protected the venerable while allowing the economy to continue to function thus minimizing the economic carnage?


50,000 people die from the flu each year. Should we shut down the economy every flu season to save those lives? If we keep the economy shut down how many people would we save from fatal car accidents?


The media has given us propaganda not news during this crisis.