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[cpomp]

14-year-old boy charged in traffic cone beating death of 73-year-old Philly man

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20220712.html

A 14-year-old boy was charged as an adult with third-degree murder in the death of a 73-year-old man whose attack by a group of juveniles was caught on surveillance video last month in North Philadelphia, authorities said Tuesday.
Richard Jones, who is also charged with conspiracy, and his 10-year-old brother surrendered to police for questioning on Monday in the June 24 assault on James Lambert Jr.

The 10-year-old was released and has not been charged, a spokesperson for District Attorney Larry Krasner said in an email.

Under Pennsylvania law, juveniles must be charged as adults for murder.

[Angus215]

Originally Posted by cpomp

14-year-old boy charged in traffic cone beating death of 73-year-old Philly man

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20220712.html

A 14-year-old boy was charged as an adult with third-degree murder in the death of a 73-year-old man whose attack by a group of juveniles was caught on surveillance video last month in North Philadelphia, authorities said Tuesday.
Richard Jones, who is also charged with conspiracy, and his 10-year-old brother surrendered to police for questioning on Monday in the June 24 assault on James Lambert Jr.

The 10-year-old was released and has not been charged, a spokesperson for District Attorney Larry Krasner said in an email.

Under Pennsylvania law, juveniles must be charged as adults for murder.

Is he out on cashless bail yet? I'm guessing Krasner settles for a couple years in juvie.

[MPK21]

Originally Posted by Redddog

If you flee from the police and SHOOT at them while you're doing it, you should expect that outcome. This should be taught at all the "how to be a criminal" courses world-wide.

I know this OT, but yes, this dude fled a traffic stop, chase ensues, he fires a gun from his fleeing vehicle at cops, stops vehicle, flees on foot, cops take him out...hmm.

The issue is if cops reasonably believed this guy was armed...hmm

Gun found on passenger seat of decedent's car.

To make this a bit local, I recall now a lone young white woman (of course) standing on the median of South Broad carrying a sign ''Justice for Wayland Walker'' for passing vehicles to see...don't recall drivers responding in support, most likely as no one, including myself, knew the name.

This case lost a lot of traction, even in summer of pre-midterm elections, to manipulate once it was determined that this guy had fired at cops during the police chase. The fact that he was subsequently ''unarmed'' is on him. Some trouble in Akron with a large mix of white ''activists'' but so far this case isn't going anywhere... Biden has only stated that the FBI/Justice Dept is ''monitoring'' this case (whatever that means) and his co-partner in creating racial division for elections, Kamala Harris, is, I believe, so far quiet on this (Harris is a co-author of the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act though...cuz Floyd is the symbol of ''justice'' in today's America...despite his extensive criminal record, including armed violent conviction/s...lol).

[cpomp]

Sort of crime related, but Starbucks at 10th & Chestnut is among several (nationwide) to close amid safety concerns. I believe it related to homelessness and drug usage taking over the bathrooms. Interesting how the "open to all" bathroom policy has since backfired.

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...-chestnut.html

[MPK21]

Originally Posted by cpomp

14-year-old boy charged in traffic cone beating death of 73-year-old Philly man

https://www.inquirer.com/news/philad...-20220712.html

A 14-year-old boy was charged as an adult with third-degree murder in the death of a 73-year-old man whose attack by a group of juveniles was caught on surveillance video last month in North Philadelphia, authorities said Tuesday.
Richard Jones, who is also charged with conspiracy, and his 10-year-old brother surrendered to police for questioning on Monday in the June 24 assault on James Lambert Jr.

The 10-year-old was released and has not been charged, a spokesperson for District Attorney Larry Krasner said in an email.

Under Pennsylvania law, juveniles must be charged as adults for murder.

Must say when I saw the news video of these 2 kids being escorted into police headquarters by their attorneys, I thought it was only the 10 year old kid heading in before realizing who I thought was the father or some adult male, as he is tall and big, turned out to be the 14 year old kid now being charged.

The young girl playing a very active role in this murder is supposed to turn herself in today.

[MPK21]

Originally Posted by cpomp

Sort of crime related, but Starbucks at 10th & Chestnut is among several (nationwide) to close amid safety concerns. I believe it related to homelessness and drug usage taking over the bathrooms. Interesting how the "open to all" bathroom policy has since backfired.

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...-chestnut.html

Who didn't think or know that the 2018 bathroom uproar was a scam set-up? World wide news that somehow 2 non-paying black ''professionals'' were denied access to the Starbucks bathroom at 18/Spruce...lol...I remember seeing one of those dudes wandering in and around Center City-Rittenhouse in dirty clothes (which he had on during the arrest)...'member this was another outrage and blame against cops for removing these 2 ''professionals'' as some Starbucks workers subsequently refused to serve cops...huge crowd outside this location with people from out of state carrying on the civil rights struggle...now look what happened...lol

Haven't been to Starbucks since its corporate suits caved to the mob on this nonsense.

Prior to this bathroom nonsense, a worker at the 18/Spruce location was chased around the store by a knife wielding dude.

From the Inquirer, in part:

''A Starbucks spokesperson said that the bathroom policy had not changed — bathrooms would generally remain open to all — and that employees would simply be able to close bathrooms to the public on a case-by-case basis.

In a statement posted to the Starbucks website, the company’s senior vice presidents of U.S. operations wrote that giving employees the option to close restrooms was one of several initiatives geared toward making Starbucks shops safer for workers and customers.

In 2018, Rashon Nelson and Donte Robinson were waiting for a business associate at the Starbucks at 18th and Spruce Streets. During a television appearance at the time, Nelson said he had asked to use the bathroom but was denied access because he wasn’t a customer.''

I guess the case by case basis bathroom policy applies if the location is still open...lol. who would want to work in a Center City Starbucks and deal with this nonsense?

[mphilly]

Yeah, you have to deal with the world as it is and not how you wish it to be. Of course almost everyone would support having the bathrooms open to the public in theory. However, it’s just not practical with the amount of drug use among the current homeless population. Now no one gets to go to Starbucks at that location so you just end up ruining things for everyone while not actually helping the homeless or drug addicts that frequented the store.

I’m progressive but too many of these policies related to crime/homelessness/drug use etc. in the last few years are ignoring the realities on the ground and just making it worse for everyone. There needs to be a course correction on these immediate issues and a shift in focus to fixing long term systemic issues in education, housing and healthcare which can be done without sacrificing current safety and quality of life for law abiding people.

[selhars]

If I were. Starbucks employee, I would want a company policy to back me up.

What the heck is "a case by case basis?"
THAT is what opens up managers to a profiling or bias allegation, and puts all the responsibility on the workers.

[MPK21]

Originally Posted by selhars

If I were. Starbucks employee, I would want a company policy to back me up.

What the heck is "a case by case basis?"
THAT is what opens up managers to a profiling or bias allegation, and puts all the responsibility on the workers.

exactly but I also read this as an entire location can use a case by case basis in allowing no one to use the bathroom, customer or not....which is crazy. The latest policy does, regardless, need some additional clarity...I personally don't care because I don't patronize Starbucks anyway.

I'll never understand why or how any business must open its restrooms to the general public...as in anyone off the streets waltzing in to ''use'' the bathrooms for a variety of reasons.

Remembers as well post-2018 Starbucks worldwide news story that the city implemented the ''all businesses must open restrooms to the general public''...and disallowed cops from removing folks from private businesses whether customer or not. I've seen street people plopped at the foot of Target's staircase with their carry alongs set down as a cop or few can only stand by and do nothing as actual customers had to navigate around them

Or the CVS worker who called cops on a black dude being called out by some white chick about ''ordering a black man's execution''...cuz he called the cops...who would naturally by today's standards, kill this black man.

Yeah, it's all become so out of control whack-a-doodle today...which is the agenda of some of these people supporting and pushing this crap because America is a systemically racist system since 1492 and they are bent on creating a dystopia rooted in capitalism (see also Larry Krasner and, for example, former San Francisco DA Chesa Boudin).

Oh, and Starbucks will not back up its employees, especially if they are white (male or female) and the ''victim'' is a POC, and I'll include Asian in that.

[ilovephilly79]

Originally Posted by MPK21

I know this OT, but yes, this dude fled a traffic stop, chase ensues, he fires a gun from his fleeing vehicle at cops, stops vehicle, flees on foot, cops take him out...hmm.

The issue is if cops reasonably believed this guy was armed...hmm

Gun found on passenger seat of decedent's car.

To make this a bit local, I recall now a lone young white woman (of course) standing on the median of South Broad carrying a sign ''Justice for Wayland Walker'' for passing vehicles to see...don't recall drivers responding in support, most likely as no one, including myself, knew the name.

This case lost a lot of traction, even in summer of pre-midterm elections, to manipulate once it was determined that this guy had fired at cops during the police chase. The fact that he was subsequently ''unarmed'' is on him. Some trouble in Akron with a large mix of white ''activists'' but so far this case isn't going anywhere... Biden has only stated that the FBI/Justice Dept is ''monitoring'' this case (whatever that means) and his co-partner in creating racial division for elections, Kamala Harris, is, I believe, so far quiet on this (Harris is a co-author of the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act though...cuz Floyd is the symbol of ''justice'' in today's America...despite his extensive criminal record, including armed violent conviction/s...lol).

I've said it before, and I will say it again. Since when did we as a society develop the misperception that resisting arrest and shooting at the cops was a guaranteed path to clean justice? If you mess with the police and resist arrest, you can expect to be beaten and or killed. When I am pulled over for a traffic stop, I pull over immediately and safely, turn the car off, keep my hands at 10 and 2, and ask for permission for any movement, including retrieval of my insurance and license.

People might not like that, or think it is right, but the streets are not a textbook. It is an emotional and scary Venture being an officer and dealing with people like this.

This explains it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUgCZHQnepo