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Old 12-02-2021, 11:35 AM
 
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which... has been Krasner's offices excuse time and again. That was the 'reasoning' given for the drop in conviction rate too. It's the job of the DA's office to make sure people show up, but they don't actually care about safety. I am envious that San Fran is recalling their "krasner" clown.
The witness may not have showed up in court, this POS was sent home in the meantime before these charges were ultimately dropped. This little tidbit of info wasn't mentioned in these news links and this POS is suspected in multiple other carjackings/robberies in the area. If a ''witness'' didn't show up, where was the victim?

Even San Franciscans have enough sense to try a recall election on their DA that just took office last January...just a sampling of who this Chesa Boudin is: the product of a long-line of communists, his communist parents murdered 2 Nyack, NY cops and a Brinks security guard in 1981 when he was a 1 year old; then was raised by his parents comrades, domestic terrorists Bernadine Dorhn & Bill Ayers (remember these 2 were Obama associates in Chicago). His mother was released from prison in the early 2000s, while his daddy just got a parole from disgraced former NY Gov...oh, and Chesa worked in Venezuela for the Chavez regime...hard to believe these mass ''consumer reparations'' incidents among other crime spikes are going on out there. Chesa uses his mommy's last name because of its long-time history of leftist communist activism.

But like here in Philly, the crime surge is due to increased drug flow, environmental factors, and, of course, the pandemic...and like here in Philly, we have a marxist-communist DA as well.

 
Old 12-02-2021, 12:12 PM
 
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Might you elaborate?

It seems to me that Krasner's policies as much as (if not more than) his personality (which I understand is prickly; I've never met him, nor have I watched the Independent Lens documentary "Philly D.A." yet) are, in your opinion, one of the reasons crime has soared.

I do happen to think that for property crimes, "restorative justice" — in which the guilty party is responsible for making the victim whole or compensating for the loss in some way — is a promising alternative to incarceration (and I do think we incarcerate too many people, partly because the privately run prisons have contracts where they get paid based on head count, which is an incentive for authorities to throw people in jail), but it won't do squat about violent crime.

I do think our Police Commissioner needs to be replaced by someone who will actually use the tools at their disposal. But I also think the head of FOP Lodge 5 actually plays into the "defund the police" crowd's hands with his rhetoric.
The ''personality'' response was a response related to me placing too much emphasis on ''political personalities''. Policies trump personalities.

Krasner is an arrogant egocentric jerk who gets his documentary debuted at the Park City UT film festival and is feted by the hollywood elite as an icon of what a progressive DA should be as our murders and violent crime soars.

Restorative justice sounds good on paper but how do you enforce it, whether it's making individuals or businesses whole again? What about multiple offenders? Plus, with or without our DA, word will be out that you can get away with stealing (like it is now) with a slap on the wrist that you ''owe'' compensation; it's like having unpaid debit...many don't care.

Outlaw should never have been hired but Kenney went for a female to replace the former alleged sex harasser Commissioner and, of course, a black female as he is a progressive now. Kenney will get huge blowback from the professional race baiters and white progressives here if dumps her now, yet I don't think he has a political future regardless. Even Outlaw though openly blames Krasner as she has issues and frustrations with his policies.

The defund the police crowd is largely the out of touch white progressive losers using the black community as a means to an end for political purposes, so who cares what they think? They don't deal with the police unless it's to their benefit. I get it that people don't like FOP leader but who else has the police officers' backs? Certainly not city hall, council, and many Philly residents.
 
Old 12-02-2021, 12:30 PM
 
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So Philly has another ''Stop Asian Hate'' and ''Stop anti-Asian Crime'' type of march a couple days ago. Absent, for some reason and unlike last winter, the blame wasn't placed on White Supremacy violence.

Yet another Asian female was assaulted on the Market-Frankfort subway this week. This time a 12-year old black female and a 13-year old black male were apprehended for each punching this 27 year old Asian women in the face on her way home from work. As the victim stated, she will ''unfortunately'' continue to use SEPTA because she has to.

The Asian community is taking a real hit in Philly's violent crime surge and will continue to do so. Wait until the Driver Equality Bill starts taking its toll in 2022.

Anyone know the stats on White Supremacy violence in Philly? Seems to be a huge issue here and nationally.
 
Old 12-02-2021, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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The ''personality'' response was a response related to me placing too much emphasis on ''political personalities''. Policies trump personalities.

Krasner is an arrogant egocentric jerk who gets his documentary debuted at the Park City UT film festival and is feted by the hollywood elite as an icon of what a progressive DA should be as our murders and violent crime soars.

Restorative justice sounds good on paper but how do you enforce it, whether it's making individuals or busin didn't esses whole again? What about multiple offenders? Plus, with or without our DA, word will be out that you can get away with stealing (like it is now) with a slap on the wrist that you ''owe'' compensation; it's like having unpaid debit...many don't care.

Outlaw should never have been hired but Kenney went for a female to replace the former alleged sex harasser Commissioner and, of course, a black female as he is a progressive now. Kenney will get huge blowback from the professional race baiters and white progressives here if dumps her now, yet I don't think he has a political future regardless. Even Outlaw though openly blames Krasner as she has issues and frustrations with his policies.

The defund the police crowd is largely the out of touch white progressive losers using the black community as a means to an end for political purposes, so who cares what they think? They don't deal with the police unless it's to their benefit. I get it that people don't like FOP leader but who else has the police officers' backs? Certainly not city hall, council, and many Philly residents.
Presumably one can obtain feedback from the victim or the case manager (supervisor/parole officer) about what the perp is doing to fulfill their sentence — and if they shirk their duty, there's always jail. (Remember, we used to imprison debtors until we figured out that was counterproductive. One of the other things I like about restorative justice is that it requires the offender to be cognizant of the damage done to the victim. Jail doesn't necessarily do that. It really is an example of "the punishment fitting the crime.")

As for McNesby: Count me as near the top of his non-fans. Former Eagles safety Malcolm Jenkins' ride-alongs demonstrated that people in lower-income, nonwhite neighborhoods (a) want good police protection and (b) will return the favor when the officers who patrol their neighborhoods respect them. I've seen murals honoring slain officers both Black and white on walls in Strawberry Mansion that also offer visual evidence of this.

So what does McNesby do in response? Demean Jenkins in language suggesting he regards him as something less than fully human.

That's no way to win friends or influence people. I've also argued that the Police Department might function better if the Guardian Civic League instead of FOP Lodge 5 were installed as the bargaining agent. Nutter certainly didn't undercut the cops, and his Police Commish was very effective. To me, that says that some of those cops themselves may be the problem if they can't see why what McNesby says would rub Blacks especially the wrong way.
 
Old 12-02-2021, 02:41 PM
 
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So Philly has another ''Stop Asian Hate'' and ''Stop anti-Asian Crime'' type of march a couple days ago. Absent, for some reason and unlike last winter, the blame wasn't placed on White Supremacy violence.

Yet another Asian female was assaulted on the Market-Frankfort subway this week. This time a 12-year old black female and a 13-year old black male were apprehended for each punching this 27 year old Asian women in the face on her way home from work. As the victim stated, she will ''unfortunately'' continue to use SEPTA because she has to.

The Asian community is taking a real hit in Philly's violent crime surge and will continue to do so. Wait until the Driver Equality Bill starts taking its toll in 2022.

Anyone know the stats on White Supremacy violence in Philly? Seems to be a huge issue here and nationally.
The latest one didn't have an overt racist tone. One can never guess the true reason for the assault. Based on what I read from the official news source, I'd say the Asian woman didn't handle her part well, either. The two black teenagers bumped into her in a crowded subway when it jerked. It wasn't their fault. The Asian woman didn't have to get angry. That said, what the two black teenagers did was reprehensible. They should be charged with assault. [I am saying this as an Asian.]

The November incident WAS a hate crime.

There are haters. One cannot change their minds. Everyone is a racist to some degree. Evolutionary biology 101. Many can control their behavior; some can't. Those who exhibit overt racist/xenophobic behavior tend to be of the lower class, which happens to be the most impulsive. I'm pretty sure well-educated African Americans or those from upper middle class families won't engage in these appalling assaults, even if they harbor hatred or resentment toward the Asians or other groups.

The only way is to disengage and vote with one's feet. That means do not live in Democrat-controlled territories; do not give money to the Democrats; do not give money to help inner city people because they will repay you with more hatred and envy.
 
Old 12-02-2021, 02:50 PM
 
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The latest one didn't have an overt racist tone. One can never guess the true reason for the assault. Based on what I read from the official news source, I'd say the Asian woman didn't handle her part well, either. The two black teenagers bumped into her in a crowded subway when it jerked. It wasn't their fault. The Asian woman didn't have to get angry. That said, what the two black teenagers did was reprehensible. They should be charged with assault. [I am saying this as an Asian.]

The November incident WAS a hate crime.

There are haters. One cannot change their minds. Everyone is a racist to some degree. Evolutionary biology 101. Many can control their behavior; some can't. Those who exhibit overt racist/xenophobic behavior tend to be of the lower class, which happens to be the most impulsive. I'm pretty sure well-educated African Americans or those from upper middle class families won't engage in these appalling assaults, even if they harbor hatred or resentment toward the Asians or other groups.

The only way is to disengage and vote with one's feet. That means do not live in Democrat-controlled territories; do not give money to the Democrats; do not give money to help inner city people because they will repay you with more hatred and envy.
If it were white kids, it would be a ''hate crime'' regardless of name calling and it would be national and social media news hysteria to meet the narrative of the fake white supremacy hate crime wave.

The Asian community is taking a collateral fallout hit here in Philly and it will only get worse in the short-term. The Asian immigrant community and their kids came to America to work and get an education and see through this socialist nonsense here in the U.S. as and know first-hand what oppression is.

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Old 12-06-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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521 Homicides, broke the record back in November. I planned on renting down on 15th and Tioga in a few months, I don’t think I will anymore.

I’ve been optimistic to the point I’ve chose to remain willfully ignorant, but I have to come to terms with reality: Philadelphia will always be an impoverished city full of corruption and crime. I’ve lived in the area my whole life and not once have I ever heard of someone moving here to manifest their dreams or career since DC and NYC siphons away all the homegrown talent or wealthy individuals. Philadelphia is a place you (begrudgingly) move to when you’re single and in your 20s because it’s cheap, and leave immediately once you have a family. If the highlight of living in Philadelphia is because it’s cheap and in close proximities to other cities, you have a problem. You don’t see Chicagoans boasting how close they are to Indianapolis or Milwaukee. If NYC by miracle became as cheap if not cheaper than Philadelphia, there would be virtually no reason to move here unless you're some retiree who was born here and is looking to settle down around family.

People here are too apathetic and content. Nobody aspires to be something great, everyone’s content with working as a construction worker, a teacher, or septa driver. People cope with sports because they’re hardly anything to do in the city other than go to the museums or take a walk in fairmount park. There’s no excitement here other than the holidays.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 11:57 AM
 
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521 Homicides, broke the record back in November. I planned on renting down on 15th and Tioga in a few months, I don’t think I will anymore.

I’ve been optimistic to the point I’ve chose to remain willfully ignorant, but I have to come to terms with reality: Philadelphia will always be an impoverished city full of corruption and crime. I’ve lived in the area my whole life and not once have I ever heard of someone moving here to manifest their dreams or career since DC and NYC siphons away all the homegrown talent or wealthy individuals. Philadelphia is a place you (begrudgingly) move to when you’re single and in your 20s because it’s cheap, and leave immediately once you have a family. If the highlight of living in Philadelphia is because it’s cheap and in close proximities to other cities, you have a problem. You don’t see Chicagoans boasting how close they are to Indianapolis or Milwaukee. If NYC by miracle became as cheap if not cheaper than Philadelphia, there would be virtually no reason to move here unless you're some retiree who was born here and is looking to settle down around family.

People here are too apathetic and content. Nobody aspires to be something great, everyone’s content with working as a construction worker, a teacher, or septa driver. People cope with sports because they’re hardly anything to do in the city other than go to the museums or take a walk in fairmount park. There’s no excitement here other than the holidays.
This ^^^ is absurd.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia Pa
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521 Homicides, broke the record back in November. I planned on renting down on 15th and Tioga in a few months, I don’t think I will anymore.

I’ve been optimistic to the point I’ve chose to remain willfully ignorant, but I have to come to terms with reality: Philadelphia will always be an impoverished city full of corruption and crime. I’ve lived in the area my whole life and not once have I ever heard of someone moving here to manifest their dreams or career since DC and NYC siphons away all the homegrown talent or wealthy individuals. Philadelphia is a place you (begrudgingly) move to when you’re single and in your 20s because it’s cheap, and leave immediately once you have a family. If the highlight of living in Philadelphia is because it’s cheap and in close proximities to other cities, you have a problem. You don’t see Chicagoans boasting how close they are to Indianapolis or Milwaukee. If NYC by miracle became as cheap if not cheaper than Philadelphia, there would be virtually no reason to move here unless you're some retiree who was born here and is looking to settle down around family.

People here are too apathetic and content. Nobody aspires to be something great, everyone’s content with working as a construction worker, a teacher, or septa driver. People cope with sports because they’re hardly anything to do in the city other than go to the museums or take a walk in fairmount park. There’s no excitement here other than the holidays.
Eh, I disagree:

1. Homicides. While numerically very high and sad, does it really matter all that much? Beyond the national black eye (which is unfortunate), very very very few people are truly impacted. Almost all of these shootings/stabbings are in regard to domestic issues, drug activity or social media slights; and just about all of them occur between those who know one another in locations an average citizen would never be. Honestly, a bigger issue is package theft, dirt bike riders popping wheelies in main commercial corridor streets, litter and general city government corruption, which are all hardly unique to Philly.

2. If no one of "means" settles here, how are developers and homeowners selling 500k+ houses and condos at record numbers? Who is buying all of these places? Septa drivers, teachers and construction workers? Also, how have basically all the formerly iffy neighborhoods from river to river and Snyder to just about Cecil B. Moore (not even counting University City, Kensington, Fishtown and the further north Riverwards) disappeared over the last 15 years?

3. Philly is a LOT of fun to compared to where a lot of transplants originally hail from. I haven't been to a museum since before COVID and probably haven't walked in Fairmount park in just as long, yet somehow have a blast going to some of the country's best restaurants, fun pubs and open-air festivals in nice weather, popping in on famer's markets, playing darts with in my dart club, running down West River Drive and watching the scullers, walking through Old City's cobblestone streets and quirky little side-alleys from the 17th and 18th centuries, meeting up with strangers, many of who become friends, for literally any hobby in which I'm interested. Really, there isn't much you CAN'T do here if you put in a tiny bit of effort.

Regardless, urban-living broadly, and Philadelphia-living specifically, isn't for anyone. Wherever you wind up moving, I wish you luck and hope you find what you're looking for in that new location.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 02:18 PM
 
Location: New York City
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521 Homicides, broke the record back in November. I planned on renting down on 15th and Tioga in a few months, I don’t think I will anymore.

I’ve been optimistic to the point I’ve chose to remain willfully ignorant, but I have to come to terms with reality: Philadelphia will always be an impoverished city full of corruption and crime. I’ve lived in the area my whole life and not once have I ever heard of someone moving here to manifest their dreams or career since DC and NYC siphons away all the homegrown talent or wealthy individuals. Philadelphia is a place you (begrudgingly) move to when you’re single and in your 20s because it’s cheap, and leave immediately once you have a family. If the highlight of living in Philadelphia is because it’s cheap and in close proximities to other cities, you have a problem. You don’t see Chicagoans boasting how close they are to Indianapolis or Milwaukee. If NYC by miracle became as cheap if not cheaper than Philadelphia, there would be virtually no reason to move here unless you're some retiree who was born here and is looking to settle down around family.

People here are too apathetic and content. Nobody aspires to be something great, everyone’s content with working as a construction worker, a teacher, or septa driver. People cope with sports because they’re hardly anything to do in the city other than go to the museums or take a walk in fairmount park. There’s no excitement here other than the holidays.
What is the world...
You insinuated I was a troll a few weeks ago and now you post this? Most of which is inaccurate or full of silly generalizations... Not sure what is up with you lately, unless you are really pushing the sarcasm thing.
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