How much does New Jersey harm Philadelphia? (Chester, New Castle: property tax, assess)

[ElijahAstin]

Originally Posted by soug

I think all of us here know that john was talking about the rest of PA. Don't take his post out of context.

So in other words, you're agreeing that it's utterly meaningless?

And for the record I think it's dumb to try and boost either state at the expense of the other.

[BPP1999]

Originally Posted by stuckinsj

Being from SJ and knowing PA alot i think i might have something to add.

Generally people in PA dont know much about SJ, just the shore, Camden, and the Cherry Hill mall. Thats understandable considering many people in SJ dont know much of PA. There are nice walkable towns in SJ (alot fewer than over the river or up the turnpike). The cities in SJ are the some of the worst in the country (Camden, AC, Trenton). If you dont believe me just walk along broadway in Camden, State St in Trenton, or Atlantic Ave in Atlantic city. Just terrible for main streets. There is more farmland here and the traffic is less but it is no drive in the country. PA sprawl from Philly goes out 30 miles or more. SJ sprawl from Philly only goes out 20 miles give or take. As a tri-county region the only things people really seem to know about first hand is the shore, center city, the sports complex, the airport, and the highways. Its a shame if you ask me that people from Glassboro and Media dont have more in common.

I think your post is pretty good. I'm not sure it's a bad thing, though. Or, at least it's not an abnormal thing. I doubt there are that many people in, as an example, Seacaucus NJ who know about White Plains NY, or vice-versa.

[frankgn87]

Originally Posted by Angus215

I lived in NJ for several years. Income tax rates approaching 9%, the highest property taxes in the nation, horrible government corruption, inefficiently run school systems, public employee unions on the verge of bankrupting the state, and oppressive "nanny state" laws that permeate every aspect of life - from gun ownership to boating to seatbelts (for dogs) to pumping gas to sun tanning. I for one couldn't wait to move back to Free Pennsylvania, and hopefully I'll never leave. But to each their own.

Odd cause my prop taxes are cheaper then co worker in Abington with a smaller home..

[BPP1999]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

Odd cause my prop taxes are cheaper then co worker in Abington with a smaller home..

The only anomaly with any of this is your continued insistence that NJ's property taxes are not high.

[frankgn87]

because its true.. .. I am living proof.. Do your homework, you will then agree

[soug]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

So in other words, you're agreeing that it's utterly meaningless?

And for the record I think it's dumb to try and boost either state at the expense of the other.

Yes, I agree. Some of the PA posters here love to do it though so it's almost refreshing to see starks doing the opposite. I do think however that Philly as a whole has much more in common with NJ than it does with the rest of PA (not including the burbs). Actually, same thing with NYC and upstate NY state.

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

because its true.. .. I am living proof.. Do your homework, you will then agree

Didn't you say on here that your house's tax assessed value was unusually low, though?

[frankgn87]

Originally Posted by rotodome

Didn't you say on here that your house's tax assessed value was unusually low, though?

no. My assessed value is about what we paid for it

[rotodome]

sorry I guess I must have misunderstood your point when you said

Originally Posted by frankgn87

I live it.. I have no reason to lie.. Be rest assured, its true.. Ill let in one a hint.. Prop tax rates are based on ASSESSED value.. Are you getting it yet? The trick is to find a home with an under assessed home. When you do you have a winner!

[Marius Pontmercy]

Heh, until you get reassessed :P

Prop taxes in the Philly burbs on the PA side are between 1.2 and 1.8%, with some exceptions (Upper Darby for instance has obscenely high property taxes). That's pretty comparable to the South Jersey burbs just looking at the average property tax burdens. Property values are generally higher on the PA side though. State taxes in PA are lower than in Jersey as well. It really depends on the locality and the value of the house. You can have lower taxes in Jersey than most people in PA if you get the right house in the right place, but that won't be true for everyone.