How much does New Jersey harm Philadelphia? (Darby, Media: home, income)

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by john_starks

the planet knows new jersey over philly

philly needs nj over the commonwealth of backasswardness

Never mind that the Pennsylvania suburbs are wealthier and faster-growing than the New Jersey suburbs.

[soug]

Originally Posted by HeavenWood

You're oh so right. Chester, Montgomery, Bucks, and Delaware Counties are dirt poor and stuck in the stone age. All the wealth and progressiveness is over the river in New Jersey.

Originally Posted by Gnutella

Never mind that the Pennsylvania suburbs are wealthier and faster-growing than the New Jersey suburbs.

I think all of us here know that john was talking about the rest of PA. Don't take his post out of context.

[frankgn87]

Originally Posted by Gnutella

Never mind that the Pennsylvania suburbs are wealthier and faster-growing than the New Jersey suburbs.

How do you figure? I see all kinds of new homes going up here in NJ. In my town, there is a slew of $400k - up homes being built and sold before they done. I work in Mont county and see nothing like this here..

[BPP1999]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

How do you figure? I see all kinds of new homes going up here in NJ. In my town, there is a slew of $400k - up homes being built and sold before they done. I work in Mont county and see nothing like this here..

The PA 'burbs are certainly wealthier, Frank, and more expensive. Faster-growing, I don't know. You work in Abington, which is basically built-out. Stop comparing apples to oranges. Take a drive out Route 422 and the slew of homes you'll find being built are also over $400k, and not only that, they are not even convenient to Center City.

[FindingZen]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

How do you figure? I see all kinds of new homes going up here in NJ. In my town, there is a slew of $400k - up homes being built and sold before they done. I work in Mont county and see nothing like this here..

You may have a point that parts of South Jersey are faster-growing. Much of Philly's PA suburbs are already built out unless you're talking about Chester County or outlying parts of Bucks or Montgomery Counties. There is still likely room for growth in SJ.

Determining whether it is the NJ 'burbs or the PA 'burbs that are the wealthiest is another story...and perhaps another thread.

[Angus215]

NJ is too busy harming its own residents to concern itself with harming Philly.

[frankgn87]

Originally Posted by Tone509

You may have a point that parts of South Jersey are faster-growing. Much of Philly's PA suburbs are already built out unless you're talking about Chester County or outlying parts of Bucks or Montgomery Counties. There is still likely room for growth in SJ.

Determining whether it is the NJ 'burbs or the PA 'burbs that are the wealthiest is another story...and perhaps another thread.

That is what Im talking about, The outer rings in pa are growing but they is so far from Philly I would not call it the Philly burbs burbs..

[frankgn87]

Originally Posted by Angus215

NJ is too busy harming its own residents to concern itself with harming Philly.

Yea I am so harmed over here! lol.. You have no idea how good it is over here..

[stuckinsj]

Being from SJ and knowing PA alot i think i might have something to add.

Generally people in PA dont know much about SJ, just the shore, Camden, and the Cherry Hill mall. Thats understandable considering many people in SJ dont know much of PA. There are nice walkable towns in SJ (alot fewer than over the river or up the turnpike). The cities in SJ are the some of the worst in the country (Camden, AC, Trenton). If you dont believe me just walk along broadway in Camden, State St in Trenton, or Atlantic Ave in Atlantic city. Just terrible for main streets. There is more farmland here and the traffic is less but it is no drive in the country. PA sprawl from Philly goes out 30 miles or more. SJ sprawl from Philly only goes out 20 miles give or take. As a tri-county region the only things people really seem to know about first hand is the shore, center city, the sports complex, the airport, and the highways. Its a shame if you ask me that people from Glassboro and Media dont have more in common.

[Angus215]

Originally Posted by frankgn87

Yea I am so harmed over here! lol.. You have no idea how good it is over here..

I lived in NJ for several years. Income tax rates approaching 9%, the highest property taxes in the nation, horrible government corruption, inefficiently run school systems, public employee unions on the verge of bankrupting the state, and oppressive "nanny state" laws that permeate every aspect of life - from gun ownership to boating to seatbelts (for dogs) to pumping gas to sun tanning. I for one couldn't wait to move back to Free Pennsylvania, and hopefully I'll never leave. But to each their own.