Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Boston: dorms, schools, universities)

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

More have died from the vaccine than from Covid? Sorry, that's beyond irrational. This drivel belongs on GETTR, not City-Data.

I said I knew, not from the overall numbers. I don't know one person who has died from covid, but 3 who have died within 2 weeks of being vaccinated.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by redplum33

You need to do more research about what happened in India. They thought they had COVID beat. It was almost non-existent there before Delta. Within a couple weeks, they didn't know where to put all the dead bodies.

India's Pandemic Death Toll Estimated At About 4 Million: 10 Times The Official Count

India's excess deaths during pandemic up to 4.9 mln, study shows

They were beating it due to early treatment. When they started vaccinating is when everything went south. Then the same treatments they used prior they started using again and their numbers went down.

Just look at highly vaccinated countries, their numbers have increased substantially. This so called vaccine that everyone is pushing, and now they have to admit it doesn't stop from getting or transmitting the virus. Anyone who read the big pharm studies knew this but didn't listen.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

I'm awed by your analysis.


It's more deadly because it's 3x to 4x more transmissible than the original COVID-19. If the mortality rate is unchanged from the original virus but 3x more people contract the disease, it's 3x more deadly.


My conjecture is that the severity of the disease is related to viral load. The more virus you inhale, the more likely it is that it overwhelms your immune system and you have severe illness. It's been well documented that Delta results in much higher viral loads. I think that is why the body count has been increasing exponentially over the last month. Therefore, I've chosen to wear an N95 mask to try to limit the viral load I'm exposed to.


...and I haven't had a cold in 18 months. It's been nice.

Just because something is more transmissible doesn't mean its more deadly on based on a ratio basis.

Good luck with your N95 mask, Berlin did that and there was no difference from the rest of the country.

I'm still amazed people think they can control and stop a virus. We have never got rid of the flu or common cold, but hey lets use the same methods that didn't work previously and do it again.

Congrats on not having a cold for 18 months. I get sick about once every 8 to 10 years and I take zero precautions.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

I said I knew, not from the overall numbers. I don't know one person who has died from covid, but 3 who have died within 2 weeks of being vaccinated.

It's still irrational...to think that your anecdote represents the norm. I posted the link to the DPH stats for MA. It's all there in black & white, unless you think they're in on the conspiracy to "control" you too.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

It's still irrational...to think that your anecdote represents the norm. I posted the link to the DPH stats for MA. It's all there in black & white, unless you think they're in on the conspiracy to "control" you too.

I never said it represented anything. It isn't any different than the news showing some covid patient who is 200 pounds overweight with 7 major underlying issues and not mentioning that, and thinking my health or others is the same; and we should base our decision on that.

But the thing is people aren't seeing what is represented by the mass media, and then they are wondering why people aren't taking things as seriously as they want us to. People do base things on what is local or around them. And when people see healthy people not getting sick or barely sick and vaccinated getting sick, some are questioning things. Real world experiences do matter.

[justyouraveragetenant]

Originally Posted by ben young

Folks , stop worrying about others ,mask or no mask. step outside and get o life.

The best advice I heard on the mass forum.

[justyouraveragetenant]

53 percent of the cases of myocarditis happen in 12 to 24. This is only 9 percent of doses. https://youtu.be/lpDwpMyQtA4

Fast forward to minute 35 of video. They won't put a stop because it will create more people to question the vaccine. Young people should not get vaccinated .

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

53 percent of the cases of myocarditis happen in 12 to 24. This is only 9 percent of doses. https://youtu.be/lpDwpMyQtA4

Fast forward to minute 35 of video. They won't put a stop because it will create more people to question the vaccine. Young people should not get vaccinated .

What's the actual percentage of cases occurring vs numbers of persons that age who have been vaccinated?

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by BostonMike7

What's the actual percentage of cases occurring vs numbers of persons that age who have been vaccinated?

According to this review by the CDC published July 9th:

"Of the 323 persons meeting CDC’s [myocarditis] case definitions, 309 (96%) were hospitalized. Acute clinical courses were generally mild; among 304 hospitalized patients with known clinical outcomes, 95% had been discharged at time of review, and none had died.
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Using myocarditis cases reported to VAERS with onset within 7 days after dose 2 of an mRNA vaccine, crude reporting rates (i.e., using [both] confirmed and unconfirmed cases [which overestimates actual cases of myocarditis caused by the vaccine]) per million second dose recipients were calculated using national COVID-19 vaccine administration data as of June 11, 2021. Myocarditis reporting rates were 40.6 cases per million second doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered to males aged 12−29 years and 2.4 per million second doses administered to males aged ≥30 years; reporting rates among females in these age groups were 4.2 and 1.0 per million second doses, respectively.*** The highest reporting rates were among males aged 12−17 years and those aged 18−24 years (62.8 and 50.5 reported myocarditis cases per million second doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine administered, respectively).
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Per million second doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine administered to males aged 12–29 years, 11,000 COVID-19 cases, 560 hospitalizations, 138 ICU admissions, and six deaths due to COVID-19 could be prevented, compared with 39–47 expected myocarditis cases after COVID-19 vaccination (Table 2). Among males aged ≥30 years, 15,300 COVID-19 cases, 4,598 hospitalizations, 1,242 ICU admissions, and 700 deaths could be prevented, compared with three to four expected myocarditis cases after COVID-19 vaccination. This analysis did not include the potential benefit of preventing post-COVID-19 conditions, such as prolonged symptoms and MIS-C (6,7)."

See:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7027e2.htm

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by OutdoorLover

According to this review by the CDC published July 9th:

So essentially a 0.00004% chance of someone in the 12-29 age range of contracting the treatable condition.