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Old 02-10-2021, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Effective tomorrow - 'an individual who is accompanying a person age 75 or older to get the vaccine may schedule their own appointment to be vaccinated on the same day.'

https://www.mass.gov/news/baker-poli...w-appointments
Time to visit the senior center and make some friends.
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Old 02-10-2021, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Time to visit the senior center and make some friends.
I got a chuckle out of this. Alas, my parent and in-laws are out of state, if only one of them was with me, I'd be in business.
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Old 02-10-2021, 10:34 AM
 
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Thats nice that more people can get the vaccination. Still slow, but - we are getting there.
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Old 02-10-2021, 10:39 AM
 
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https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/02...massachusetts/
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Old 02-10-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-...l-thanksgiving
So Thanksgiving to mid December? maybe they aren't reopening schools in the fall.

"Top members of President Joe Biden’s COVID response team are warning internally that the U.S. may not reach herd immunity until Thanksgiving or even the start of winter—months later than originally calculated—according to two senior administration officials.

In an interview with CBS News this week, Biden hinted at some of these concerns, saying it would be “very difficult” to reach herd immunity—a population-wide resistance to the virus—“much before the end of the summer” with the current daily rate of approximately 1.3 million vaccine doses. Other top officials working on the federal government’s COVID-19 response say the are uneasy about vaccine supply long term and the impact on herd immunity, and have begun to explore ways to expand U.S. manufacturing capacity, potentially through new partnerships with outside pharmaceutical firms."
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Old 02-10-2021, 01:36 PM
 
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We don't even know yet if the vaccines prevent asymptomatic transmission. We're flying blind. The best data collection is in Israel. Half the country has now had two vaccinations. They should have a pretty good sense for whether herd immunity is even possible in another 3 or 4 months assuming they vaccinate the Palestinians, too.
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Old 02-10-2021, 01:45 PM
 
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We don't even know yet if the vaccines prevent asymptomatic transmission. We're flying blind. The best data collection is in Israel. Half the country has now had two vaccinations. They should have a pretty good sense for whether herd immunity is even possible in another 3 or 4 months assuming they vaccinate the Palestinians, too.
Theoretically herd immunity is possible even if it had "zero" effectiveness against asymptomatic transmission. Of course that is dependent on many factors, and likely a much higher vaccination rate than the 70% best case scenario they are now suggesting.
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Old 02-10-2021, 02:06 PM
 
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Theoretically herd immunity is possible even if it had "zero" effectiveness against asymptomatic transmission. Of course that is dependent on many factors, and likely a much higher vaccination rate than the 70% best case scenario they are now suggesting.

I guess I wasn't clear. Nobody knows after you're vaccinated the incidence of getting infected. The only thing that was logged in the trials was whether people show symptoms or not. Until you have a big pool of vaccinated people getting tested frequently, we won't know. In the United States, the best shot at that is international border crossings. Once we get enough people vaccinated, infected people who were vaccinated will start turning up at their test coming back into the United States. Right now, all we know is the mRNA vaccines are pretty good at stopping people from having symptoms. We have no good data about whether they're actually getting infected or not.



This, of course, is why they're still telling vaccinated people to wear masks. We know that they don't show symptoms but we don't know if they're infected, asymptomatic, and transmitting the virus.
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Old 02-10-2021, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Western MA
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My 75 year old diabetic neighbor across the lane was hauled off in an ambulance this weekend. Her husband tested positive. He was treated for lung cancer recently. My town is a Sturgis-like 50+ per 100,000. With no genetic testing, we have no idea if we’re about to explode with more transmissible B.1.1.7. Those people should have been vaccinated weeks ago but Massachusetts public health totally failed them.
This is so sad. I am so afraid that I am going to be the loser who gets covid a week before I am finally scheduled to get a vaccine (whenever that will be). I am being very careful, but with the more contagious variants out there, who knows what we're in for?
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Old 02-10-2021, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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This is so sad. I am so afraid that I am going to be the loser who gets covid a week before I am finally scheduled to get a vaccine (whenever that will be). I am being very careful, but with the more contagious variants out there, who knows what we're in for?
This is my nightmare scenario also. Partly because I'm a firm "Phase 3", unless I hang out near a senior community trying to strike a quid pro quo with a horny widow before then.
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